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    The right is looking pretty pathetic.

    They seem to be mired in fear, hate and loathing.

    It's sad to see.

    It's pretty plain their policy all revolves around making the rich richer while screwing everybody else. They serve the powerful. And propaganda is their currency.

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    The right vs the left is increasingly looking like fear vs facts.

    Will the right be able to regain respect?

    Can they ever again present reasonable compassionate leadership for all the people?

    For them to do that, the Republicans will have to nominate somebody besides Trump in 2020.

    That means as the right struggles to overcome using fear as a political weapon, they will have to become fearless enough to stand up to the big bully in the WH.

    My, don't we live in interesting times?
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    Global warming global warming global warming deplorables deplorables deplorables


    yeah this is a right wing problem

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    Hello 10DUN,

    Quote Originally Posted by 10DayUserName View Post
    Global warming global warming global warming deplorables deplorables deplorables


    yeah this is a right wing problem
    Climate change is a world problem.

    Propaganda is a problem for the right because people are getting smarter.

    I've met some young kids who are incredibly smart.

    The future belongs to the intelligent, not the bullies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello 10DUN,



    Climate change is a world problem.

    Propaganda is a problem for the right because people are getting smarter.

    I've met some young kids who are incredibly smart.

    The future belongs to the intelligent, not the bullies.
    I forgot Russia Russia Russia!!!!!!!!!

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    Hello 10DayUserName,

    Quote Originally Posted by 10DayUserName View Post
    I forgot Russia Russia Russia!!!!!!!!!
    And you know Russia is far larger than the USA, has many more resources and people. But Russia has not prospered like the USA because it is controlled by bullies.

    We have to have a political system which is not dominated by bullies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello 10DayUserName,



    And you know Russia is far larger than the USA, has many more resources and people. But Russia has not prospered like the USA because it is controlled by bullies.

    We have to have a political system which is not dominated by bullies.
    Russia's population is less than half that of the US I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello 10DayUserName,



    And you know Russia is far larger than the USA, has many more resources and people. But Russia has not prospered like the USA because it is controlled by bullies.

    We have to have a political system which is not dominated by bullies.
    You are right Democrats only wish they had all the power to pull it off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10DayUserName View Post
    Global warming global warming global warming deplorables deplorables deplorables


    yeah this is a right wing problem
    Global warming is real and deplorables was a simple comment Hillary made once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The right is looking pretty pathetic.

    They seem to be mired in fear, hate and loathing.

    It's sad to see.

    It's pretty plain their policy all revolves around making the rich richer while screwing everybody else. They serve the powerful. And propaganda is their currency.

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    The right vs the left is increasingly looking like fear vs facts.

    Will the right be able to regain respect?

    Can they ever again present reasonable compassionate leadership for all the people?

    For them to do that, the Republicans will have to nominate somebody besides Trump in 2020.

    That means as the right struggles to overcome using fear as a political weapon, they will have to become fearless enough to stand up to the big bully in the WH.

    My, don't we live in interesting times?
    The American right MAY eventually works its way back and become the "reasonable, compassionate" group you hope for, Poli...

    ...but it will require a GREAT DEAL MORE than just standing up to Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump is a reflection of what the American right has become. He is NOT an aberration.

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    Hello Frank,

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    The American right MAY eventually works its way back and become the "reasonable, compassionate" group you hope for, Poli...

    ...but it will require a GREAT DEAL MORE than just standing up to Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump is a reflection of what the American right has become. He is NOT an aberration.
    Trump was going bankrupt with the Taj Mahal. He paid too much, built it too big and could never generate enough revenue to cover his debts. Banks would no longer loan to him.

    He needed a huge cash injection.

    So he went public!

    He sold stock in his name.

    People could invest in Donald Trump. They bought DJT stock!

    He got millions. Kept him going for a while.

    Why the public would invest in somebody who was going bankrupt and the banks would not touch him is a testament to his false propaganda narrative. He kept getting himself in the news, and every time, he looked like he had lots of money, like everything he touched turned to gold.

    It all worked for a while but eventually people lost confidence in his stock. The word was finally out that he was a scammer. The stock price fell until it was worthless paper. Trump got away with all the money.

    Trump got away with it by fooling most of the people some of the time.

    Now his new shtick is to fool people into being afraid of illegal immigration. He is making it work for a while, but he knows it won't work forever. He's just milking it for all he can for as long as it lasts.

    Trump knows people will wise up about him sooner or later.
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    This thread is delusional, for the most part. Btw, Russia has a GDP about the size of Spain's. Further, it is an undeniable fact that the United States of America is the world's main aggressor.

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    The very idea that the "left" is immune to propaganda is absurd. Anyone who believes otherwise is, well, propagandized.

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    Hello Controlled Opposition,

    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    The very idea that the "left" is immune to propaganda is absurd. Anyone who believes otherwise is, well, propagandized.
    I never attempted to establish that anybody is immune to propaganda. We can certainly see that by looking at how well President Trump's lies work on the uneducated.

    All that Left-leaning posters have to do is locate and state facts. Right-leaning posters have to be far more creative because facts are not frequently in their favor. Many times, the right is reduced to 'alternate facts,' with common conspiracy theories such as claiming the main stream news media is part and parcel of a Democratic party 'deep state.' This circular reasoning relies on giving examples of things denied by right-leaning posters, then claiming this 'proves' the existence of a 'liberal media.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Controlled Opposition,



    I never attempted to establish that anybody is immune to propaganda. We can certainly see that by looking at how well President Trump's lies work on the uneducated.

    All that Left-leaning posters have to do is locate and state facts. Right-leaning posters have to be far more creative because facts are not frequently in their favor. Many times, the right is reduced to 'alternate facts,' with common conspiracy theories such as claiming the main stream news media is part and parcel of a Democratic party 'deep state.' This circular reasoning relies on giving examples of things denied by right-leaning posters, then claiming this 'proves' the existence of a 'liberal media.'
    No. Everything you wrote applies equally, if not more, to the left. For example; the Russia hoax. You may reply with more leftist propaganda as you see fit.

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    Hello Controlled Opposition,

    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    No. Everything you wrote applies equally, if not more, to the left. For example; the Russia hoax. You may reply with more leftist propaganda as you see fit.
    Hoax?

    What makes you think it's a hoax? You seem to know an unknown. The Mueller investigation is ongoing. Calling it a hoax IS propaganda. It's false information, misinformation.

    And there we have it.

    The right-leaning poster is clinging to an 'alternative fact,' (a non-fact,) and the left-leaning poster merely needs to state the fact.

    Your argument has been debunked.

    Your non-fact is incorrectly calling an unknown a hoax.

    My fact is correctly stating that it is an unknown.
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