Pelosi responds to Trump, says she won’t allow State of the Union during shutdown

[anatta]

The idiot doesn't even realize when he's met his match. He's afraid of strong women, and he's clueless about the way our govt. works.

He shut down the govt. There's no need for a state of the union. The union is closed for business, and our former allies cannot wait for Nov. 2020

grotesque misunderstanding of the SOTU and the PARTIAL SHUTDOWN.
what an idiot...ya it's all about "strong women"

[Darth Omar]

Trump should drive to the Capitol Teus night 8PM. Get out of the limo and pound on the door.
Then give the speech from the Capitol steps. then nail the speech to the door a la Martin Luther.

These guys have no sense of political theater. It would shake up the narrative

Apart from the pissing contest aspect, Nancy has reason to fear Trump getting to air a national speech where he can frame the debate. That’s the subtext to this thing.

[anatta]

Apart from the pissing contest aspect, Nancy has reason to fear Trump getting to air a national speech where he can frame the debate. That’s the subtext to this thing.

sure.
But it's an object lesson for Democratic (Pelosi) intransigence as well

[Truth Detector]

Wrong cunt face, the border became extremely dangerous the day that the right wing attacked trump in December for agreeing to a deal without funding for a fence. Now show us the crime, show us the diseases. You said they were there so fucking prove it.

Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes and serve 10.5% longer sentences, more likely to be classified as dangerous, and 45% more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens.
https://crimeresearch.org/2018/01/im...s-crime-rates/

Link emerging between illegal immigration and infectious disease outbreaks across America
https://www.naturalnews.com/052527_i..._disease.html#

Could an Outbreak of Deadly Disease Happen Here?

Unfortunately, the answer is “Yes, it could happen here.” Germany provides a good case study. It is a developed nation whose healthcare system and immigration policies are comparable to those of the United States.

Germany recently accepted roughly two million refugees with minimal security vetting and virtually no health screening.[5] The majority of people relocated to Germany in this wave of migrants come from countries in the developing world that are currently experiencing social and political conflicts that make the delivery of medical services and the maintenance of basic sanitation services difficult, if not impossible. Their arrival without proper medical screening has had a negative effect on Germany’s health and welfare.

The Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Germany’s equivalent of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), is responsible for monitoring infectious diseases managing outbreaks. RKI recently reported a significant increase in communicable diseases across Germany.[6] In its annual report on “Infectious Disease Epidemiology in Germany,” the institute concluded that recent increases in dengue fever, Hantavirus, hemorrhagic fever, malaria, tuberculosis and other communicable diseases are directly attributable to the migrant stream currently pouring into Germany.[7]

Many of the infections mentioned in the RKI report have been rare in Europe for decades.[8] Their re-emergence is a significant threat to the general health and welfare of native Germans and new arrivals alike. Germany has a first class healthcare system that should be able to address a discrete outbreak of a single disease, even a serious one.[9] However, the sheer number of refugees and the diversity of infectious diseases they appear to be spreading has been taxing the German public health infrastructure since the beginning of the refugee crisis.[10]

During the Obama administration, the U.S. experienced a mass migration event similar to the German refugee crisis: the arrival of significant numbers of unaccompanied alien children. Although less numerous than the Middle Eastern, African and South Asian refugees streaming into Germany, the Latin American children who arrived on the U.S. border came from countries with similar public health issues – lack of basic sanitation, limited access to healthcare services and an absence of preventative medicine programs.

Their arrival was accompanied by significant increases in tuberculosis, dengue fever and swine flu infections.[11] Unaccompanied alien children also appear to have been the source of the deadly outbreak of the EV-D68 enterovirus that spread throughout the American West in 2014.[12] While these outbreaks were rapidly brought under control, that seems to have been a function of the relatively small numbers of alien kids. A full-blown refugee crisis of the type affecting Europe might have resulted in the type of across-the-board increase in disease that Germany is presently experiencing.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/societa...-health-crisis

[floridafan]

Apart from the pissing contest aspect, Nancy has reason to fear Trump getting to air a national speech where he can frame the debate. That’s the subtext to this thing.

The debate has been framed weeks ago and you lost. Now if trumps wants to speak let him open the government first.

[Truth Detector]

Trump said repeatedly and relentlessly that Mexico was paying for his Berlin Wall.
Not the US Congress.
Trump needs to go to Mexico City and beg the President of Mexico for money to build his beautiful wall.

I will quote Ralph:

Mexico has already PAID FOR THE WALL......there is a reduction of illegal crossings....Illegals cost the US taxpayer 116 Billion annually. Trump has reduced that cost drastically. In reality: Mexico is paying for the wall. What? Did you expect Mexico to draft a check declaring, PAY TO THE ORDER OF THE WALL?Ralph

[Truth Detector]

Who walked out of the last meeting?

Why stay in a meeting with dishonest hacks who refuse to compromise? Apparently you're not just a shitty lawyer, but know NOTHING about negotiating.

[floridafan]

Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes and serve 10.5% longer sentences, more likely to be classified as dangerous, and 45% more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens.
https://crimeresearch.org/2018/01/im...s-crime-rates/

Link emerging between illegal immigration and infectious disease outbreaks across America
https://www.naturalnews.com/052527_i..._disease.html#

Could an Outbreak of Deadly Disease Happen Here?

Unfortunately, the answer is “Yes, it could happen here.” Germany provides a good case study. It is a developed nation whose healthcare system and immigration policies are comparable to those of the United States.

Germany recently accepted roughly two million refugees with minimal security vetting and virtually no health screening.[5] The majority of people relocated to Germany in this wave of migrants come from countries in the developing world that are currently experiencing social and political conflicts that make the delivery of medical services and the maintenance of basic sanitation services difficult, if not impossible. Their arrival without proper medical screening has had a negative effect on Germany’s health and welfare.

The Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Germany’s equivalent of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), is responsible for monitoring infectious diseases managing outbreaks. RKI recently reported a significant increase in communicable diseases across Germany.[6] In its annual report on “Infectious Disease Epidemiology in Germany,” the institute concluded that recent increases in dengue fever, Hantavirus, hemorrhagic fever, malaria, tuberculosis and other communicable diseases are directly attributable to the migrant stream currently pouring into Germany.[7]

Many of the infections mentioned in the RKI report have been rare in Europe for decades.[8] Their re-emergence is a significant threat to the general health and welfare of native Germans and new arrivals alike. Germany has a first class healthcare system that should be able to address a discrete outbreak of a single disease, even a serious one.[9] However, the sheer number of refugees and the diversity of infectious diseases they appear to be spreading has been taxing the German public health infrastructure since the beginning of the refugee crisis.[10]

During the Obama administration, the U.S. experienced a mass migration event similar to the German refugee crisis: the arrival of significant numbers of unaccompanied alien children. Although less numerous than the Middle Eastern, African and South Asian refugees streaming into Germany, the Latin American children who arrived on the U.S. border came from countries with similar public health issues – lack of basic sanitation, limited access to healthcare services and an absence of preventative medicine programs.

Their arrival was accompanied by significant increases in tuberculosis, dengue fever and swine flu infections.[11] Unaccompanied alien children also appear to have been the source of the deadly outbreak of the EV-D68 enterovirus that spread throughout the American West in 2014.[12] While these outbreaks were rapidly brought under control, that seems to have been a function of the relatively small numbers of alien kids. A full-blown refugee crisis of the type affecting Europe might have resulted in the type of across-the-board increase in disease that Germany is presently experiencing.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/societa...-health-crisis

Tell your research team to do better, this is total bull shit. I asked to to PROVE that diseases are an issue on the border, that crime is an issue and you fucking cant do it.

[archives]

Apart from the pissing contest aspect, Nancy has reason to fear Trump getting to air a national speech where he can frame the debate. That’s the subtext to this thing.

Sure it is, it is political, on both sides, Trump would spend the entire speech regurgitating all the lines we have been hearing for months now with the invited gallery full of individuals he can highlight an demagogue. If it wasn't he could simply hold off on the speech till after the Gov't is opened and then deliver the normative State of the Union speech nobody ever listens to

Best bet, the holds a gym rally somewhere near the border instead, and when the regular networks don't cover it, he'll shout media basis

[Truth Detector]

Trump wants it his way or no way, you cant negotiate with that. He desperately needs the wall, not because of any problems on the border, but to keep Hannity, Coulter and the like from trashing him.

Pelosi wants it her way or no way, you cant negotiate with that. She desperately does not want the wall, pretending there aren't any problems on the border, but to keep the morons in her constituency, MSNBC, CNN and the like from trashing her.

[Truth Detector]

You need to face the truth. Everything that trump says is a self serving lie. There is zero need for a wall.

Wrong; everything you say is a self serving lie.

[Darth Omar]

Tell your research team to do better, this is total bull shit. I asked to to PROVE that diseases are an issue on the border, that crime is an issue and you fucking cant do it.

You believe in climate change and 23 genders but not third world diseases lol?

[Truth Detector]

Tell your research team to do better, this is total bull shit. I asked to to PROVE that diseases are an issue on the border, that crime is an issue and you fucking cant do it.

Why am I not surprised; while you come with nothing but ranting emotional hysterics, I give you the FACTS and you declare them bullshit. Let's face it, you're a whiny, lying dishonest cunt on steroids and nothing can ever change that.

This is why I say one cannot argue with idiots or partisan cunts and it is better just to point at your whiny false bullshit and laugh.

[Truth Detector]

Sure it is, it is political, on both sides, Trump would spend the entire speech regurgitating all the lines we have been hearing for months now with the invited gallery full of individuals he can highlight an demagogue. If it wasn't he could simply hold off on the speech till after the Gov't is opened and then deliver the normative State of the Union speech nobody ever listens to

Best bet, the holds a gym rally somewhere near the border instead, and when the regular networks don't cover it, he'll shout media basis

[archives]

I will quote Ralph:

Mexico has already PAID FOR THE WALL......there is a reduction of illegal crossings....Illegals cost the US taxpayer 116 Billion annually. Trump has reduced that cost drastically. In reality: Mexico is paying for the wall. What? Did you expect Mexico to draft a check declaring, PAY TO THE ORDER OF THE WALL?Ralph

I am still waiting on an explanation on how "Mexico has already paid for the wall"