Site claimed to be where Moses received Commandments to be bulldozed for KSA megacity

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Bible scholars fear a site believed to be where Moses received the Ten Commandments could be bulldozed to make way for a Saudi megacity. Experts have claimed the £350bn project would destroy crucial historical and archaeological evidence. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has reportedly backed a new metropolis to be built that is 17 times the size of London at the Jabal al Lawz peak.

In a recent documentary called Finding the Mountain of Moses: The Real Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia, experts discovered the spot near the Jordanian border was the most likely place where Moses received the Commandments. Presenter Ryan Mauro warned of the plans: "If all of us don't take action, Saudi construction in the area may destroy key evidence and prevent excavation for the foreseeable future." He further claimed he had uncovered evidence that proves that the blackened peak is where God descended on the mountain "as of fire".

The Book of Exodus states Moses led the Israelites to Mount Sinai, which was covered in fire, smoke and thunder. While he ascended the mountain for 40 days and nights, scriptures says the Israelites demanded that Aaron make them "gods" which led to the construction of the golden calf. Mauro claimed in the documentary that a plinth close to the mountain is the spot where a golden calf was worshipped - the stone construction has bulls carved into its base.


https://www.premier.org.uk/News/Worl...audi-mega-city

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Viral online film argues Exodus went into Saudi Arabia, Mt ...

Ryan Mauro, a national security expert, director of the Clarion Intelligence Network and former professor at Liberty University, uploaded a nearly 25-minute long film to YouTube on Dec. 17. Created with The Doubting Thomas Research Foundation, Mauro’s film argues that Mt. Sinai is the modern day Jebel al-Lawz.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/v...im-nation.html

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Ryan Mauro - Right Web - Institute for Policy Studies

Ryan Mauro is a national security analyst with the controversial “pro-Israel” propaganda outfit the Clarion Project. Mauro has become a frequent guest on Fox News, where he pushes sensationalist stories about Muslim groups in the United States.

https://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/ryan-mauro/

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MT. SINAI IS NOT AT JEBEL EL-LAWZ IN SAUDI ARABIA

Problems with the Jebel al-Lawz location view The biggest problem with the identification of Jebel al-Lawz as Mt. Sinai is that it does not meet the Biblical criteria for the site. In my Bible and Spade article I point out three questionable assumptions made by the proponents of Jebel al-Lawz.


http://www.ldolphin.org/franz-ellawz.html

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Thursday, November 15, 2001, 9:50-10:30 a.m. session
Broadmoor Hotel
Colorado Springs, CO
The last ten years has witnessed the proliferation of books, videos, websites and television programs that have proposed a new site for Mt. Sinai * Jebel al-Lawz in Saudi Arabia. They also told about underwater searches for Pharaoh's chariots and weapons from the Egyptian army. This paper examines three aspects of the identification of Mt. Sinai in Saudi Arabia. First, the paper questions the credibility of the claims. Second, the paper disputes the false assumptions by the proponents of Jebel al-Lawz. Third, the paper examines the archaeological evidence.

This paper discusses the first two aspects briefly because they have already been dealt with in the Fall 2000 issue of Bible and Spade (Franz 2000:101-113). That article is posted on Lambert Dolphin's website. (http://www.ldolphin.org/franz-sinai.html). A revised form of this paper will appear as an article in Bible and Spade.

The paper discusses the third aspect, the archaeological evidence, in more detail. The questions dealt with include, 1) Are the archaeological remains that were observed by the proponents of Jebel al-Lawz credible? And 2) Does the remains match the Biblical text? The final section of this paper deals with the location of the Red Sea crossing. Was it in the Gulf of Akaba / Eilat or the Gulf of Suez?

I believe that this paper, along with the Bible and Spade article, will conclusively demonstrated that there is no credible historical, geographical, archaeological or Biblical evidence to support the thesis that Mt. Sinai is at Jebel al-Lawz in Saudi Arabia.

The Proponents of Jebel al-Lawz as Mt. Sinai

Ron Wyatt first proposed the idea that Mt. Sinai was at Jebel al-Lawz.

Whatever one may think of Ron Wyatt's "discoveries," he should be given full credit for this discovery.
However, I would like to call your attention to a recent book examining the claims of Ron Wyatt. It is entitled Holy Relics or Revelation, by two SDA researchers, Russell and Colin Standish. (Hartland Publications, Box 1, Rapidan, VA 22733. 1-800-774-3566). This book is a careful, meticulous, in-depth study of Ron Wyatt's claims. These researchers "speak the truth in love" but state that Ron Wyatt has not been truthful in his claims.

During the course of writing the first article, other proponents of Jebel al-Lawz requested that I not mention Ron Wyatt. Their stated concern to me was that my mentioning of him would "dignify him" and they consider him a "con man."

They feared that mentioning them in the same paragraph as Wyatt would result in "guilt by associations"! I pointed out to them that when publishing research results one must begin with a discussion of the history of research and include a review of the literature on the subject.

Ron Wyatt is the key player in this discovery. Both sets of proponents of this view used the same archaeological evidence to prove their points. The only difference between the views is their proposed route from Egypt to the Red Sea and the placing of the Red Sea crossing.

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Ryan Mauro - Right Web - Institute for Policy Studies

Ryan Mauro is a national security analyst with the controversial “pro-Israel” propaganda outfit the Clarion Project. Mauro has become a frequent guest on Fox News, where he pushes sensationalist stories about Muslim groups in the United States.

https://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/ryan-mauro/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...med-bin-Salman

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...med-bin-Salman

Jebal al Lawz was identified as Mt Sinai by some crackpot over 30 years ago. Like Ron Wyatt.

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MT. SINAI IS NOT AT JEBEL EL-LAWZ IN SAUDI ARABIA

Problems with the Jebel al-Lawz location view The biggest problem with the identification of Jebel al-Lawz as Mt. Sinai is that it does not meet the Biblical criteria for the site. In my Bible and Spade article I point out three questionable assumptions made by the proponents of Jebel al-Lawz.


http://www.ldolphin.org/franz-ellawz.html

excerpt:

Thursday, November 15, 2001, 9:50-10:30 a.m. session
Broadmoor Hotel
Colorado Springs, CO
The last ten years has witnessed the proliferation of books, videos, websites and television programs that have proposed a new site for Mt. Sinai * Jebel al-Lawz in Saudi Arabia. They also told about underwater searches for Pharaoh's chariots and weapons from the Egyptian army. This paper examines three aspects of the identification of Mt. Sinai in Saudi Arabia. First, the paper questions the credibility of the claims. Second, the paper disputes the false assumptions by the proponents of Jebel al-Lawz. Third, the paper examines the archaeological evidence.

This paper discusses the first two aspects briefly because they have already been dealt with in the Fall 2000 issue of Bible and Spade (Franz 2000:101-113). That article is posted on Lambert Dolphin's website. (http://www.ldolphin.org/franz-sinai.html). A revised form of this paper will appear as an article in Bible and Spade.

The paper discusses the third aspect, the archaeological evidence, in more detail. The questions dealt with include, 1) Are the archaeological remains that were observed by the proponents of Jebel al-Lawz credible? And 2) Does the remains match the Biblical text? The final section of this paper deals with the location of the Red Sea crossing. Was it in the Gulf of Akaba / Eilat or the Gulf of Suez?

I believe that this paper, along with the Bible and Spade article, will conclusively demonstrated that there is no credible historical, geographical, archaeological or Biblical evidence to support the thesis that Mt. Sinai is at Jebel al-Lawz in Saudi Arabia.

The Proponents of Jebel al-Lawz as Mt. Sinai

Ron Wyatt first proposed the idea that Mt. Sinai was at Jebel al-Lawz.

Whatever one may think of Ron Wyatt's "discoveries," he should be given full credit for this discovery.
However, I would like to call your attention to a recent book examining the claims of Ron Wyatt. It is entitled Holy Relics or Revelation, by two SDA researchers, Russell and Colin Standish. (Hartland Publications, Box 1, Rapidan, VA 22733. 1-800-774-3566). This book is a careful, meticulous, in-depth study of Ron Wyatt's claims. These researchers "speak the truth in love" but state that Ron Wyatt has not been truthful in his claims.

During the course of writing the first article, other proponents of Jebel al-Lawz requested that I not mention Ron Wyatt. Their stated concern to me was that my mentioning of him would "dignify him" and they consider him a "con man."

They feared that mentioning them in the same paragraph as Wyatt would result in "guilt by associations"! I pointed out to them that when publishing research results one must begin with a discussion of the history of research and include a review of the literature on the subject.

Ron Wyatt is the key player in this discovery. Both sets of proponents of this view used the same archaeological evidence to prove their points. The only difference between the views is their proposed route from Egypt to the Red Sea and the placing of the Red Sea crossing.

Haven't you got anything more up to date than 2001?

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Jebal al Lawz was identified as Mt Sinai by some crackpot over 30 years ago. Like Ron Wyatt.

I do enjoy rattling your cage, it's such fun!

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Haven't you got anything more up to date than 2001?

Ron Wyatt has pretty much been debunked as far back as the mid 1980s. You know he's the guy that found the ark of the covenant but his film was bad.

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One claim I have heard from people who have heard the proponents of Jebel al-Lawz is that this "altar" with the bovine petroglyphs is the only one in the area. I was informed by the Saudi archaeologist who did the survey of the area that there were about 300 rock art sites in the northwest Saudi Arabia and about 50 rock art sites with bovine in the al-Bad' / Jebel al-Lawz area. If they were drawn by Israelites, then Hebrew graffiti artists drew them as they roamed the desert drawing what the Lord had forbidden them to make!

The proponents of Jebel al-Lawz might discount the objectivity of the Saudi archaeologists, but they must consider the archaeological remains. The so-called "Cave of Moses" is clearly a First Century AD Nabatean tomb. A British archaeologist who worked on the survey of those tombs explained to me how he could date them so precisely. He said the paleography of an inscription in an al-Bad' tomb is identical with the paleography of another tomb at another site nearby. This tomb had an inscription with the name of the decease as well as a date of his death. It is safe to say the style of those tombs is Nabatean and not earlier.

The archaeology of the so-called "altar of Moses and the 12 pillars" is also clear. I was informed by a Saudi archaeologist that the pottery is purely, and only, Nabatean. There is nothing earlier. One may debate the function of the building, but the dating is clear. It is considerably later than the Exodus.

The proponents of Jebel al-Lawz rejected a Mt. Sinai in the Sinai Peninsula because of lack of archaeological evidence. They also objected to my suggestion that one would not expect to find any because they were nomadic people dwelling in tents. A leading American archaeologist, William Dever, said, "we would still find no remains of their ephemeral camps in the desert." He goes on to say that any attempts to make maps tracing the route of the Exodus was "doomed to failure" (1997:72). K. A. Kitchen, a British Egyptologist, concurs with him on the first statement when he says, "That we should find no trace of ever-moving camps in the Sinai desert is entirely correct" (1998:107). But he goes on to chide Dever about not being able to trace the route.

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http://www.ldolphin.org/franz-ellawz.html

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Ron Wyatt was a textbook example of a pseudoarchaeologist, having presented fraudulent or amateurishly misinterpreted "evidence" on a number of occasions, notably the remains of Noah's Ark, the Ark of the Covenant and various nonsense regarding Moses and the Red Sea in Exodus.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ron_Wyatt

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Why do the Saudis want to build a megacity 30 times bigger than New York anyway, what's the point? Seems to me to be yet another monument to a massive Arab ego, in this case MBS.

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Bible scholars fear a site believed to be where Moses received the Ten Commandments could be bulldozed to make way for a Saudi megacity. Experts have claimed the £350bn project would destroy crucial historical and archaeological evidence. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has reportedly backed a new metropolis to be built that is 17 times the size of London at the Jabal al Lawz peak.

In a recent documentary called Finding the Mountain of Moses: The Real Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia, experts discovered the spot near the Jordanian border was the most likely place where Moses received the Commandments. Presenter Ryan Mauro warned of the plans: "If all of us don't take action, Saudi construction in the area may destroy key evidence and prevent excavation for the foreseeable future." He further claimed he had uncovered evidence that proves that the blackened peak is where God descended on the mountain "as of fire".

The Book of Exodus states Moses led the Israelites to Mount Sinai, which was covered in fire, smoke and thunder. While he ascended the mountain for 40 days and nights, scriptures says the Israelites demanded that Aaron make them "gods" which led to the construction of the golden calf. Mauro claimed in the documentary that a plinth close to the mountain is the spot where a golden calf was worshipped - the stone construction has bulls carved into its base.


https://www.premier.org.uk/News/Worl...audi-mega-city

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Ron Wyatt was a textbook example of a pseudoarchaeologist, having presented fraudulent or amateurishly misinterpreted "evidence" on a number of occasions, notably the remains of Noah's Ark, the Ark of the Covenant and various nonsense regarding Moses and the Red Sea in Exodus.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ron_Wyatt

You probably don't know what yanking your chain means, but consider yourself yanked!!

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Why do the Saudis want to build a megacity 30 times bigger than New York anyway, what's the point? Seems to me to be yet another monument to a massive Arab ego, in this case MBS.

I have no idea... may be location..