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Putin Offered Free Penthouse Worth $50 MILLION Atop Moscow Trump Tower As Bribe
But there was 'no collusion.'
-rolling eyes-
"One idea considered for the proposed Trump Tower in Moscow was to offer Russian President Vladimir Putin the penthouse, according to Felix Sater, who was working on the project with Michael Cohen. Sater, a Russian-born onetime business associate of Trump's, described the concept as a "marketing ploy" and explained that the idea was to try to enhance the value and attraction for buyers by having Putin in the building."
Trump Tower Moscow concept included idea of giving penthouse to Putin
Felix Sater is a dirty guy. He is a criminal who escaped charges by turning evidence.
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Why would Putin get a free penthouse?
Is that the way business is done in Russia?
Is that the price of a bribe to get a big project approved?
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evince (01-22-2019), ThatOwlWoman (01-22-2019)
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The article already answers the question---they were considering it to increase the price for all the other units in the building. No different than BMW giving celebrities free car leases so when the paparazzi photo them in the BMW other people will want to buy BMW's because that is what all the celebrities drive.
canceled.2021.1 (01-22-2019)
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Kacper,
The impropriety of giving a thing of huge value to the Russian President in order to make a Moscow deal go through is inescapable.Originally Posted by Kacper
Especially if this is being negotiated during a political campaign for the profit of the would-be US President.
It is abuse of power. This is not why we elect leaders. Not to make them rich and subservient to foreign nations.
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evince (01-22-2019), kudzu (01-22-2019), ThatOwlWoman (01-22-2019)
Truthmatters
many of the right wing posters here are not real humans
they are hired posters
it is why they show NO evidence of morality, sense or compassion for others.
Do not let their attempts to make you believe many real Americans are like they appear to be
the real base of trump is a brainwashed rabble of fox viewers
they will peel away from trump when Fox news tell them to.
Fox news needs to die
canceled.2021.1 (01-22-2019)
In Yo Face!
Who would turn down a Free Penthouse?
ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch
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evince (01-22-2019)
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Actually, that is quite clever. .. but we need a statesman not a Real Estate Marketing guy.
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine
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evince (01-22-2019)
Leftist Vermin
True. I doubt if anyone would have blinked if the deal to Putin had been proferred by Toadstool or any other real estate builder who was not President or running for President. Private citizens can legally do things like that, that are unethical and possibly illegal for elected ppl to do. There's a difference. We have enough corruption and taint in govt. now; why would we want more?
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evince (01-22-2019)
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
Oh crap! Evidence that Trump colluded with Putin to build a damn hotel! Alert the special council!
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canceled.2021.1 (01-22-2019)
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He held no public office in America at the time and this did not happen in the US but in Moscow. It also did not happen and was only considered. It also is not that far afield of what does happen in the US. My local government paid me $10K just for an option to purchase a piece of property I own at a set price within 6 month in order to have it to put on the table to facilitate the private conversion of a pretty large older building from office space to condominiums. They were unable to pre-sell enough condominium units to go forward with the project so I got to keep my land and their $10KThese types of projects have lots of dynamics, pressures, angles to cover and often are contingent on the ability to sell the stuff before the deal is officially inked. In my case, it was because they needed the land to have a place to off-street park owners' vehicles via a valet service for the building.
canceled.2021.1 (01-22-2019)
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello evince,
I disagree with the last part.
We need to have freedom of speech, and we need to hear all views.
Diversity is viewpoints makes America great.
We of higher morals simply need to speak out more often for what is right.
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I don't believe that they are hired posters. I think they are authentically stupid.
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ThatOwlWoman (01-22-2019)
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez,
Do you get the concept behind the emoluments clause?
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Not the same thing.He held no public office in America at the time and this did not happen in the US but in Moscow. It also did not happen and was only considered. It also is not that far afield of what does happen in the US. My local government paid me $10K just for an option to purchase a piece of property I own at a set price within 6 month in order to have it to put on the table to facilitate the private conversion of a pretty large older building from office space to condominiums. They were unable to pre-sell enough condominium units to go forward with the project so I got to keep my land and their $10K
And here's the rub.
If there was no impropriety in trying to set up this bribe, why did Trump tell Cohen to lie about it?
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ThatOwlWoman (01-22-2019)
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Then you know nothing of how development works.
Mueller has already said buzzfeed lied about this. Why do you cling to lies?And here's the rub.
If there was no impropriety in trying to set up this bribe, why did Trump tell Cohen to lie about it?
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Hello Kacper,
Cohen testified as a part of his plea deal that Individual One told him to lie to Congress to hide the Moscow Trump Tower details from the public. Was this to avoid being charged under the emoluments clause?
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