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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Does FAIR advocate a wall?
    your question! "llegals cost the US taxpayer 116 Billion annually.".. Can you document that claim?

    The answer is yes now deal with facts or shut the pie hole
    https://fairus.org/issue/publication...ates-taxpayers

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    You mean "still." He never does anything else.


    Says Donald Trump "said illegal immigration has been a problem in America for 'thousands of years.' "

    — PolitiFact Facebook fact-checks on Friday, January 18th, 2019
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    CLAIM: There is a growing humanitarian and security crisis at the southern border.

    FACTS: Border crossings have been falling for years. U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported just over 300,000 apprehensions for illegal border crossings in 2017, the lowest in more than 45 years and down from more than 1.6 million in 2000, according to FactCheck.org.

    CLAIM: The Southern border is a pipeline for vast quantities of illegal drugs, including methamphetamine, heroin, cocaine and fentanyl. Every week 300 of our citizens are killed by heroin alone, 90 percent of which floods across from our Southern border.

    FACTS:Trump’s claim that a wall would stop the flow of illegal drugs is discounted by most experts. And most illegal drugs — including the opioids that the Centers for Disease Control says kill 130 people in the U.S. each day — do go through ports of entry, as Trump has claimed in the past and which would not be affected by a wall. A DEA report in 2018 said: "Majority of the flow is through … legal ports of entry." The U.S. Customs and Border Protection told NBC News reporter Jacob Soboroff that, “Drug smugglers feel there are opportunities to mix in” at ports of entry. The vast majority of hard narcotics including fentanyl comes into this country through ports of entry or in the mail from China, Soboroff reported.

    https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/...504072361.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    You didn't answer the questions, Einstein. Too difficult for you?
    Yep....it takes an Einstein to be ignorant about common knowledge. The question was asked and answered....simply because you did not like the answer does not mean it was not addressed. The reason there is no funding for securing the southern border is common knowledge. The left wants open border wet back criminals entering the country in an illegal manner.....its more fodder for their Welfare and Voter Scams. Either you endorse the rule of law or you do not......something is either wrong or its right. The left always supports that which is illegal and unrighteous.

    The answer: Obstruction to the safety and security of this nation by the elite LEFT. The list is long as to why the left does not want a secured border.

    The lefts documented agenda for the United States of America: 1. Overload the welfare system with those who contribute nothing to the system. 2. Preach "peace" through disarmament instead of Peace through Strength. (every leftist president has weakened the US military through their objective plans). 3. Pass legislation that would make it mandatory to send aid to the enemies of the US (how much tax payer money is paid out every year that funds global terrorism?)

    4. Make the US support the UN. 5. (the one battle that Trump is winning big time) the left wants to load the court system with radical leftist judges. 6. The left demands queerness be accepted as normal (and then they attack that supposed normal act when someone is caught engaging in the act....that does not vote democrat)

    7. Place leftist professors in all colleges. 8. Take over the media and use it as a propaganda tool. 9. Promote porn. 10. Prevent Christian prayer in public...but allow fake religion acts as being protected by the Bill of Rights. 9. Gun Control (fast and the furious) 10. Use fake radical environmentalism to limit real industrial production by the US...making the US weaker in its ability to defend itself. 11. Distort Christian values and claim its "unchristian" to build a wall to secure US Sovereignty. (sound like Fancy Nancy?)



    There you have it. Almost a dozen reasons as to why the southern border of this nation remains open and unsecure......using it as a pipeline for crime, terrorism and voter fraud. Its the left...its who they are. A snake has not choice but to act like the snake they are...…..the only cure? Cut the head off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Yep....it takes an Einstein to be ignorant about common knowledge. The question was asked and answered....simply because you did not like the answer does not mean it was not addressed. The reason there is no funding for securing the southern border is common knowledge. The left wants open border wet back criminals entering the country in an illegal manner.....its more fodder for their Welfare and Voter Scams. Either you endorse the rule of law or you do not......something is either wrong or its right. The left always supports that which is illegal and unrighteous.

    The answer: Obstruction to the safety and security of this nation by the elite LEFT. The list is long as to why the left does not want a secured border.

    The lefts documented agenda for the United States of America: 1. Overload the welfare system with those who contribute nothing to the system. 2. Preach "peace" through disarmament instead of Peace through Strength. (every leftist president has weakened the US military through their objective plans). 3. Pass legislation that would make it mandatory to send aid to the enemies of the US (how much tax payer money is paid out every year that funds global terrorism?)

    4. Make the US support the UN. 5. (the one battle that Trump is winning big time) the left wants to load the court system with radical leftist judges. 6. The left demands queerness be accepted as normal (and then they attack that supposed normal act when someone is caught engaging in the act....that does not vote democrat)

    7. Place leftist professors in all colleges. 8. Take over the media and use it as a propaganda tool. 9. Promote porn. 10. Prevent Christian prayer in public...but allow fake religion acts as being protected by the Bill of Rights. 9. Gun Control (fast and the furious) 10. Use fake radical environmentalism to limit real industrial production by the US...making the US weaker in its ability to defend itself. 11. Distort Christian values and claim its "unchristian" to build a wall to secure US Sovereignty. (sound like Fancy Nancy?)



    There you have it. Almost a dozen reasons as to why the southern border of this nation remains open and unsecure......using it as a pipeline for crime, terrorism and voter fraud. Its the left...its who they are. A snake has not choice but to act like the snake they are...…..the only cure? Cut the head off.
    The CUNT is full of total shit, morning, noon and night

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    The CUNT is full of total shit, morning, noon and night
    Nothing like the smell of ad hominem horseshit in the morning. As I said....if you don't like the answers, dont ask the questions. Simply because the left is brain dead and has no capacity for critical independent thinking does make ad hominem horseshit...TRUTH.


    Ad Hominem: appealing to "emotion" rather to fact or reason. Everyone knows how much the left HATES. There is nothing new under the sun, it who you are, its what you do.....you hate. A snake can be nothing but a snake. Its easy to step on a snake. That why its easy to engage a leftist in intellectual debate....BS is easily debunked.


    I took note of how you presented a line item rebuke and refutation of the facts presented. -0-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Nothing like the smell of ad hominem horseshit in the morning. As I said....if you don't like the answers, dont ask the questions. Simply because the left is brain dead and has no capacity for critical independent thinking does make ad hominem horseshit...TRUTH.


    Ad Hominem: appealing to "emotion" rather to fact or reason. Everyone knows how much the left HATES. There is nothing new under the sun, it who you are, its what you do.....you hate. A snake can be nothing but a snake. Its easy to step on a snake. That why its easy to engage a leftist in intellectual debate....BS is easily debunked.


    I took note of how you presented a line item rebuke and refutation of the facts presented. -0-
    Lets do this one more time. You said the money for the wall is already available. Therefore why is the government shut down? Why hasn't construction begun?
    Are you at all capable of answering that jerk off?

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    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    There it is!

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    The southern border wall is about Trump's messaging. The areas he wants to waste 30 billion plus on are not where drugs and illegals come in. It is political. ElChapo said in court this week, that they shipped in right through the points of entry. They are involved in far larger quantities than mules can provide. Trump trades in fear and obviously it works on those who lack the ability to analyze.The wall is waste of assets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Yep....it takes an Einstein to be ignorant about common knowledge. The question was asked and answered....simply because you did not like the answer does not mean it was not addressed. The reason there is no funding for securing the southern border is common knowledge. The left wants open border wet back criminals entering the country in an illegal manner.....its more fodder for their Welfare and Voter Scams. Either you endorse the rule of law or you do not......something is either wrong or its right. The left always supports that which is illegal and unrighteous.

    The answer: Obstruction to the safety and security of this nation by the elite LEFT. The list is long as to why the left does not want a secured border.

    The lefts documented agenda for the United States of America: 1. Overload the welfare system with those who contribute nothing to the system. 2. Preach "peace" through disarmament instead of Peace through Strength. (every leftist president has weakened the US military through their objective plans). 3. Pass legislation that would make it mandatory to send aid to the enemies of the US (how much tax payer money is paid out every year that funds global terrorism?)

    4. Make the US support the UN. 5. (the one battle that Trump is winning big time) the left wants to load the court system with radical leftist judges. 6. The left demands queerness be accepted as normal (and then they attack that supposed normal act when someone is caught engaging in the act....that does not vote democrat)

    7. Place leftist professors in all colleges. 8. Take over the media and use it as a propaganda tool. 9. Promote porn. 10. Prevent Christian prayer in public...but allow fake religion acts as being protected by the Bill of Rights. 9. Gun Control (fast and the furious) 10. Use fake radical environmentalism to limit real industrial production by the US...making the US weaker in its ability to defend itself. 11. Distort Christian values and claim its "unchristian" to build a wall to secure US Sovereignty. (sound like Fancy Nancy?)



    There you have it. Almost a dozen reasons as to why the southern border of this nation remains open and unsecure......using it as a pipeline for crime, terrorism and voter fraud. Its the left...its who they are. A snake has not choice but to act like the snake they are...…..the only cure? Cut the head off.
    Do you actually believe all that ? Trump LIED about the Open Borders Bill.. There is no such thing.. and Democrats most certainly don't want open borders.

    You do know that not all Christians reject education, don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The southern border wall is about Trump's messaging. The areas he wants to waste 30 billion plus on are not where drugs and illegals come in. It is political. ElChapo said in court this week, that they shipped in right through the points of entry. They are involved in far larger quantities than mules can provide. Trump trades in fear and obviously it works on those who lack the ability to analyze.The wall is waste of assets.

    Trump has a Russian buddy that he owes big time who manufactures steel.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    There it is!
    Oh oh. Another right winger suffers from hearing the truth syndrome. Those butt hurts are bad ain't they.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Yep....it takes an Einstein to be ignorant about common knowledge. The question was asked and answered....simply because you did not like the answer does not mean it was not addressed. The reason there is no funding for securing the southern border is common knowledge. The left wants open border wet back criminals entering the country in an illegal manner.....its more fodder for their Welfare and Voter Scams. Either you endorse the rule of law or you do not......something is either wrong or its right. The left always supports that which is illegal and unrighteous.

    The answer: Obstruction to the safety and security of this nation by the elite LEFT. The list is long as to why the left does not want a secured border.

    The lefts documented agenda for the United States of America:

    There you have it. Almost a dozen reasons as to why the southern border of this nation remains open and unsecure......using it as a pipeline for crime, terrorism and voter fraud. Its the left...its who they are. A snake has not choice but to act like the snake they are...…..the only cure? Cut the head off.
    Where is your documentation?

    Your lies are not credible, and you have no documentation.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Trump has a Russian buddy that he owes big time who manufactures steel.
    Abramovich is just one of many:

    https://www.newsweek.com/these-russi...ampaign-795051
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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