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    Quote Originally Posted by Felex Sanders View Post
    I would like to think that out of every single Republican, Democrat, Independent, Green or what have you that there can be found those who want for our nation and the world the best and not the worst. In every political structure, there are those who would corrupt and misuse power and authority but within this nation, I pray our true and caring, honest and compassionate politicians win the day.
    So who will be the decider of what is best for society and our nation? You?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    they already do my friend

    the republican party has cheated in elections for decades

    it is all court documented


    Cold hard court documented right up to the SCOTUS


    I can give you all the proof and have been handing it out here for over a decade
    I am not saying there are not the bad. I am simply saying that there are the good as well who honestly want America to succeed. Granted the Republicans have been rather lackadaisical in their care for the policies and people of our nation and world lately but that does not mean that all of them are bad it just means we need to vote out the bad and vote in the good. For instance, I happen to like John McCain and politicians of like mind. So, in conclusion, I think that our government stands a chance to right itself and begin working as a "reaching across the aisle" sort of government but everyone needs to get on board and that would mean all of those opposed to working together and who are strictly down party lines "my way or the highway" would have to either go or change their stance. A government and a democracy work only when the people come together as a unit to ensure its steady and productive functioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Try hitting the reply with quote feature. It will make your posts a little easier to read.
    My apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felex Sanders View Post
    ...How do you believe the present administration and majority party are doing in the cabinet, administration and the legislative bodies as far as governing is concerned? In other words is our government on the right track or the wrong track?
    Intentionally threatening and scaring our allies about pulling out of NATO, pulling out of The Paris Agreement, pulling out of the Iran Deal, pulling out of Syria without considering the consequences, pulling out of Afghanistan, and pulling out of Stormy Daniels, have all backfired on Donald Trump!

    Donald Trump is always pulling out of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felex Sanders View Post
    I do not believe it will be de-constructed but rather it will evolve into a society that is all inclusive and compassionate. I would not hope or wish for de-construction but rather using what we have as a foundation to build positive futures for our nation and the world. It is possible with positive and forward thinking minds and hearts.
    Deconstruction is necessary and will happen because we got ahead of it or because the world ran out of resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Intentionally threatening and scaring our allies about pulling out of NATO, pulling out of The Paris Agreement, pulling out of Syria without considering the consequences, pulling out of Afghanistan, and pulling out of Stormy Daniels, have all backfired on Donald Trump!

    Donald Trump is always pulling out of something.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    You're an interesting character, aren't you? Very outspoken and I like that. I am a staunch supporter of our First Amendment. Keep up the good work.

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    Truth Detector, let's put something in ways you should understand.






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    In recognition of today I would like to give the following:

    Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Poem Of Love

    Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s I Have A Dream is not a speech at all. As I read it and listen to it being recited by the great man himself I am reminded of a poem of love and hope directed at and dedicated to all of humanity and not the mere delivery of an empty or monotone speech. Dr. King’s wondrous dream is that all of humanity one day become as one and learn to live and love one another as brother and sister. This is a dream and a hope that I to hold very dear within my heart and soul. Dr. King reminds all of us of what we can and should become as both a nation and as a world.

    It is my belief that mankind is good and decent and caring overall and that such good always wins out over evil. I could not nor would I contemplate otherwise, nor should you.


    “I Have a Dream” Speech
    Martin Luther King, Jr.
    August 28, 1963
    I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.
    Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.
    But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free; one hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination; one hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity; one hundred years later, the Negro is still languished in the corners of American society and finds himself in exile in his own land.
    So we’ve come here today to dramatize a shameful condition. In a sense, we’ve come to our nation’s capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was the promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
    It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note in so far as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked “insufficient funds.” But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. And so we have come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice.
    We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy; now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice; now is the time to lift our nation from the quick sands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood; now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God’s children. It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro’s legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. And those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content, will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.
    But there is something that I must say to my people, who stand on the worn threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protests to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force. The marvelous new militancy, which has engulfed the Negro community, must not lead us to a distrust of all white people for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom. We cannot walk alone. And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead. We cannot turn back.
    There are those who are asking the devotees of Civil Rights, “When will you be satisfied?” We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality; we can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities; we cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro’s basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one; we can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their selfhood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating “For Whites Only”; we cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro in Mississippi cannot vote, and the Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No! no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until “justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
    I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. Some of you have come from areas where your quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Go back to Mississippi. Go back to Alabama. Go back to South Carolina. Go back to Georgia. Go back to Louisiana. Go back to the slums and ghettos of our Northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed. Let us not wallow in the valley of despair.
    I say to you today, my friends, so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream. I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.” I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave-owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood. I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice. I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
    I HAVE A DREAM TODAY!
    I have a dream that one day down in Alabama — with its vicious racists, with its Governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification — one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.
    I HAVE A DREAM TODAY!
    I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low. The rough places will be plain and the crooked places will be made straight, “and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.”
    This is our hope. This is the faith that I go back to the South with. With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day. And this will be the day. This will be the day when all of God’s children will be able to sing with new meaning, “My country ’tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing, land where my father died, land of the pilgrim’s pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring.” And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.
    So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire; let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York; let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania; let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado; let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California. But not only that. Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia; let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee; let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. “From every mountainside, let freedom ring.”
    And when this happens, and when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God’s children, black men, and white men, Jews, and Gentiles, Protestants, and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: “Free at last. Free at last. Thank God Almighty, we are free at last.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Deconstruction is necessary and will happen because we got ahead of it or because the world ran out of resources.
    I disagree but you have a right to your opinion.

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    In remembrance of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felex Sanders View Post
    2. I don't support his pullout of Troops from Syria. It's like snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory.
    what was the "victory" that we sought in Syria and why do you think we have it to be snatched away......wasn't Obama's goal there to remove Assad?........is that about to happen?.....

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    "It is my belief that mankind is good and decent and caring overall and that such good always wins out over evil. I could not nor would I contemplate otherwise, nor should you."
    Jack: I'm not sure if "good always wins out over evil" is true. I guess if you look at a thousand years of the Dark Ages being ended by the Renaissance, maybe you could convince yourself of this. Try asking the people in the 'Three Generation Work Camps' in North Korea if they believe this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    "It is my belief that mankind is good and decent and caring overall and that such good always wins out over evil. I could not nor would I contemplate otherwise, nor should you."
    Jack: I'm not sure if "good always wins out over evil" is true. I guess if you look at a thousand years of the Dark Ages being ended by the Renaissance, maybe you could convince yourself of this. Try asking the people in the 'Three Generation Work Camps' in North Korea if they believe this?
    I suppose that winning is the long game and not the short. Nevertheless, I still have great hope and belief in two things 1 Our great democratic republic is one of the best in the world and 2.) Mankind's ability to overcome hardship and to love one another is real and alive. Call me a dreamer, a fantasy nut whatever you want I still have those beliefs and always will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    what was the "victory" that we sought in Syria and why do you think we have it to be snatched away......wasn't Obama's goal there to remove Assad?........is that about to happen?.....

    An autonomous region for the Northern Federation (Rojava) guaranteed by the Syrian Government, similar to the Agreement with the Iraqi Government and Iraqi Kurdistan.

    "The Constitution of the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria,[1][2] officially titled Charter of the Social Contract, is the provisional constitution of the self-proclaimed autonomous region of Syria known as the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria (DFNS). It was adopted on 29 January 2014, when the Democratic Union Party (PYD), claiming to represent the DFNS population, declared the three DFNS regions it controls autonomous from the Syrian government.[1] Article 12 states the DFNS remains an "integral part of Syria", tentatively implementing an expected future federal Syrian governance in Northern Syria.[3]

    The constitution has gained much international attention and is most noted for its explicit affirmation of minority rights and gender equality and a form of direct democracy known as 'democratic confederalism'.[4][5]"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consti...Northern_Syria

    PMP. Do you have a problem with "Equality" and 'Democracy" in the Middle East?



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