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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    You mean reinstating executive orders, right?
    Why were they necessary? Please be specific, and show your work.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    He will have nancy spread eagle peeing on him in no time. #MAGA
    Great. I can't unsee this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Why were they "necessary"? Please be specific, and show your work.
    ^^Quotation marks added by me
    Because Congress wouldn't pass laws to do what Obama wanted. But he had a phone and a pen
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    You are still believing Trump's lies about a border crisis??????
    have you sone any research on it? Enviornnental damage from illegals trashing the desert -even the Saguaro has been vandalized.

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/im.../11/id/890254/
    A total of 23,121 parents and children traveling as families were caught illegally crossing the border last month, which is also nearly 400 percent higher than the figure recorded just a year ago.

    When families, unaccompanied children and single adults are included in the figures, the Border Patrol caught nearly 51,000 illegal immigrants in November, the highest since the illegal immigration surge in 2014.

    An additional 9,770 unauthorized migrants showed up requesting entry at the official border crossings, according to Customs and Border Protection.

    The number of illegal immigrants caught by the Border Patrol is considered a good way to generally estimate the overall flow, experts say, since more people caught indicates more people getting through as well. This means an increase in apprehensions usually coincides with a rise in overall rates of illegal immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    have you sone any research on it? Enviornnental damage from illegals trashing the desert -even the Saguaro has been vandalized.

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/im.../11/id/890254/
    A total of 23,121 parents and children traveling as families were caught illegally crossing the border last month, which is also nearly 400 percent higher than the figure recorded just a year ago.

    When families, unaccompanied children and single adults are included in the figures, the Border Patrol caught nearly 51,000 illegal immigrants in November, the highest since the illegal immigration surge in 2014.

    An additional 9,770 unauthorized migrants showed up requesting entry at the official border crossings, according to Customs and Border Protection.

    The number of illegal immigrants caught by the Border Patrol is considered a good way to generally estimate the overall flow, experts say, since more people caught indicates more people getting through as well. This means an increase in apprehensions usually coincides with a rise in overall rates of illegal immigration.
    Are you going to believe Newsmax or the Border Patrol, the DEA and US Customs and Immigration?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Our morbidly obese Orange Pig is learning the hard way that selling cheap frozen steaks and vodka, hosting crappy reality TV shows, and selling time shares on Florida resort properties are not even remotely adequate preparation for negotiating with the US Congress or with ruthless North Korean communists.
    It's all the same, dictators or consumers are all subject to flattery and persuasion. Apart from you of course, you're 'special'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Are you going to believe Newsmax or the Border Patrol, the DEA and US Customs and Immigration?
    A group of 84 men, women and children were dropped off by a tour bus on a Mexican highway before they crossed.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ossing-n960631
    He saw a bus stop on the Mexican side of the border,” Grijalva said. “The bus driver got out, opened the doors and then proceeded to have approximately 80 people exit the bus and cross into the United States illegally.”

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    https://www.winknews.com/2019/01/19/...ll-in-arizona/
    and inundated agents in

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    A group of 84 men, women and children were dropped off by a tour bus on a Mexican highway before they crossed.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ossing-n960631
    He saw a bus stop on the Mexican side of the border,” Grijalva said. “The bus driver got out, opened the doors and then proceeded to have approximately 80 people exit the bus and cross into the United States illegally.”

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    https://www.winknews.com/2019/01/19/...ll-in-arizona/
    and inundated agents in
    There is a checkpoint at every border crossing.. all 48 of them. You are being manipulated.

    Trump is lying.. This is an ego trip for him and a distraction from the Mueller investigation.

    Trump insists that a 'border crisis’ is ravaging America – Here's what numbers tell us
    By Jessica Tarlov, Harlan York

    Published January 19, 2019

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trum...-tell-us.print
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    More children arriving very sick at the U.S. border
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.4953b3bc7809
    McAleenan called the situation at the border “an unprecedented crisis” caused by a sharp increase in the number of younger, sicker people who are crossing. The number of asylum cases has more than doubled, fueled largely by Central American families fleeing violence in their home countries.

    A 7-year-old girl died Dec. 7 in CPB custody, apparently after going days without eating or drinking.

    After a second migrant child died on Christmas Eve, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen blamed smugglers and migrant parents for pushing border security systems to the “breaking point.”

    McAleenan agreed with her conclusion, blaming the growing numbers on route and transportation changes introduced by smugglers seizing on the desperation of families as chance to profit. The traditional 25-to-30-day cycle it takes for a migrant to go from Mexico’s southern border with Guatemala to its northern border with the United States has become much shorter. Some are arriving at the border in commercial buses that make the trip in five days, taking them to more-remote areas.

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    There Is No Border Crisis - forbes.com


    A fresh look at current and historical data shows that despite the attention paid to the dueling televised addresses delivered on January 8, 2019, there is no crisis at the border.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuarta.../#73c488356a52
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    More children arriving very sick at the U.S. border
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.4953b3bc7809
    McAleenan called the situation at the border “an unprecedented crisis” caused by a sharp increase in the number of younger, sicker people who are crossing. The number of asylum cases has more than doubled, fueled largely by Central American families fleeing violence in their home countries.

    A 7-year-old girl died Dec. 7 in CPB custody, apparently after going days without eating or drinking.

    After a second migrant child died on Christmas Eve, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen blamed smugglers and migrant parents for pushing border security systems to the “breaking point.”

    McAleenan agreed with her conclusion, blaming the growing numbers on route and transportation changes introduced by smugglers seizing on the desperation of families as chance to profit. The traditional 25-to-30-day cycle it takes for a migrant to go from Mexico’s southern border with Guatemala to its northern border with the United States has become much shorter. Some are arriving at the border in commercial buses that make the trip in five days, taking them to more-remote areas.

    This information has since proved wrong. The little girl and her father did not walk from Central America across Mexico.. They were dropped off a 90 minute walk from the border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    It's all the same, dictators or consumers are all subject to flattery and persuasion. Apart from you of course, you're 'special'.
    Gov. Lujan Grisham: No border crisis in NM - lcsun-news.com

    Governor Lujan Grisham: No border crisis in New Mexico. Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham toured Sunland Park and Santa Teresa border facilities on a fact-finding mission Friday.

    https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/new...is/2554231002/
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    There is a checkpoint at every border crossing.. all 48 of them. You are being manipulated.

    Trump is lying.. This is an ego trip for him and a distraction from the Mueller investigation.

    Trump insists that a 'border crisis’ is ravaging America – Here's what numbers tell us
    By Jessica Tarlov, Harlan York

    Published January 19, 2019

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trum...-tell-us.print
    don't insult my intelilgence. "manipulated"
    Your article is written today but the numbers cited stop in 2017. why is that?

    I've given you last quarter figures 51 k arrested in October and Nov.

    I just posted a "jailbreak" move of dropping off migrants at the border and they rush the agents.
    This becoming more common too

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    This information has since proved wrong. The little girl and her father did not walk from Central America across Mexico.. They were dropped off a 90 minute walk from the border.
    he number of asylum cases has more than doubled, fueled largely by Central American families fleeing violence in their home countries.

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    Is the Border in Crisis? ‘We’re Doing Fine, Quite Frankly,’ a ...

    A Border Patrol vehicle parked near the border fence in Brownsville, Tex. While President Trump has cited an immigration “crisis,” Brownsville officials disagree.

    BROWNSVILLE, Tex. — The mayor of this Texas border city has been dealing with a crisis.

    This week, he declared a state of emergency. Drones filled the skies and emergency vehicles raced down the streets. But none of it had anything to do with illegal immigration.

    It had to do with the weather.

    A severe thunderstorm caused widespread flooding throughout the Rio Grande Valley in recent days. That other crisis — the one President Trump says has been unfolding on the border because of illegal immigration — is largely a fiction, the mayor, Tony Martinez, and other Brownsville residents and leaders said.

    continued

    hhttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/23/us/border-trump-immigration.html
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