Trump to propose immigration compromise to end shutdown

[katzgar]

Democrats don’t care. They don’t want to negotiate a deal. They figure the longer the shutdown the worse for Trump.
Is Pelosi even in Washington or is she traveling.

Americans don't want the wall do they. Pelosi is more popular than trump. Americans blame trump for the shutdown.

[cancel2 2022]

The response to anything Trump proposes should be:

Re-open the government. Then we can talk.

Trump has screwed this thing up so badly, it looks like a slap-stick comedy. He is desperate to get out of this with ANYTHING...just anything.

He is probably one of the worst negotiators ever!

Yeh bullshit!!

[cancel2 2022]

Nobody knows. Perhaps he doesn’t want them to get out ahead of his own investigation and muck it up. But the wording is carefully molded, narrow and specific.

He didn’t “refute” anything. The word “inaccurate” was used. Huge difference. That is, except for people who have no command of the English language. Or are ignorant of how the wording on these kinds of releases go.

Nobody believes a racist cunt like you!+

[kudzu]

Nobody believes a racist cunt like you!+

Falling Illegal Immigration Numbers Confirm No Border Crisis

Forbes· 3 days ago

If America is facing a crisis at the border, then why is the unauthorized immigrant population...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuarta.../#5207eadf33fb


The data do not support a picture of an increasing number of unauthorized immigrants in the United States. “While the president has focused the nation’s attention on the border wall, half a million U.S. undocumented residents from Mexico left the undocumented population in 2016 alone, more than three times the number that arrived that year, leading to an overall decrease of nearly 400,000 undocumented residents from Mexico from 2016 to 2017,” according to new research from Robert Warren, a demographer and senior visiting fellow at the Center for Migration Studies. (Emphasis added.)

[kudzu]

Americans don't want the wall do they. Pelosi is more popular than trump. Americans blame trump for the shutdown.

Source: Center for Migration Studies.

The original public argument Donald Trump put forward for building a wall along the border was concern about large-scale illegal migration from Mexico. However, Warren notes in his report, “From 2010 to 2017, the undocumented population from Mexico fell by a remarkable 1.3 million.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuarta.../#5207eadf33fb

[kudzu]

Yeh bullshit!!

Trump insists that a 'border crisis’ is ravaging America – Here's what numbers tell us

Fox News· 1 day ago


Presidents Clinton, Bush and Obama were all enforcement-minded on immigration. President Clinton signed the most draconian immigration laws of the modern era. And President Obama was so tough on immigration that he became known as the “deporter-in-chief.”

Data is a stubborn thing. And today, the government’s own data isn’t working in favor of the Trump administration. According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s 2017 Border Security Report, illegal border apprehensions have fallen 90 percent since the year 2000. The border has never been more secure than it is now.

This begs the question of whether we need to spend $5 billion building a wall. Historically speaking, walls have never really kept out “invading hordes.” Our current legal system and procedures are doing an effective job, according to the numbers.

But let’s say for the sake of argument that Trump gets his money. He’ll promptly face tremendous legal barriers to building the border wall.


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The figures are clear. The numbers of illegal immigrants entering the country have dropped significantly in the last 10 years while the numbers of those overstaying their visas have risen. However, overstays only represented about 1 percent of those who lawfully travelled to the United States in 2017.

It's not our borders that are the problem. They are statistically more secure than they have ever been.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trum...-tell-us.print

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There's a crisis....

[kudzu]

There's a crisis....

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It's a crisis....

[Gotcha68]

I have never witnessed so many outraged Americans fighting to pay billions of dollars for something the man in the White House promised someone else was going to pay for. You all are pissed off that Democrats expect Trump to hold up to his promise of making Mexico pay for something and instead YOU want to pay for it.

And by YOU I mean all of us. WTF is wrong with the lot of you? You have somehow made Trump's bullshit campaign lie the Democrats fault and the American people's financial responsibility and you see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

My god what it must feel like to be stuck in one of your heads for a minute while you all are trying to mentally square that fucking circle.

[Frank Apisa]

LOL...yeah right. "We need to pass the bill to find out what's in it".
No way.

Way!

I didn't suggest anything like the need to pass a bill and then find out what is in it.

Open the government...pass a CR and open the government. Then discuss funding the goddam wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for...and which a majority of the country does not want.

The wall is never going to be built as was promised in any case.

Donald Trump has fucked this thing up so badly...it is beyond imagination.

He should have put some effort into it when he had both Houses of congress under Republican control...but he knew it would not pass back then. Now he is trying to pretend it is the fault of the Democrats.

Okay...fine. Let it be. But stop the charade and get the government open again.

[Frank Apisa]

$5 billion ransom for DACA, I’d probably go for it, I’d have to see the deal.

Pay an extortioner this way...and the extortioner will be back.

And there will be copy-cat extortioners from now on.

DO NOT PAY AN EXTORTIONER...EVER!

[Frank Apisa]

5 billion only gives him a few miles of wall!

Trump KNOWS if the Democrats give in to this extortion, Jarod...they will give in when he does it next year.

THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD NOT DO THE DEAL. The DACA thing may well be resolved by the courts.

[Legion]

They wanted to strengthen the border which they did and fine employers who hired illegals.. The Republicans blocked that.

Is that so?

You have zero credibility.

[Micawber]

he is to do something? Why doesn't he just do something instead of floating ideas through your news bubble?