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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    your assertion that the stock market will defeat ISIS is silly
    Absurdity; the last refuge for liars, fools and the ignorant. Yay you!

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    ISIS’s loss of its caliphate and its degradation from a quasi-nation-state back into a traditional federated terror organization.
    Indeed, the Atlantic Council has previously used the term “territorial defeat” to describe the U.S. focus in Syria and said that such “defeat” would still leave an “insurgency” on the ground.

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    I think stick brain done lost it..but stick brains do return

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
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    I know, Trump said he done defeated ISIS!

    MAGA M'FUCKERS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    I know, Trump said he done defeated ISIS!

    MAGA M'FUCKERS!
    man you are a TOUGH GHOST TO KILL!

    Take it up with the military definition of "defeated"..1st post on this thread. you can't miss it ( well you can)

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    man you are a TOUGH GHOST TO KILL!

    Take it up with the military definition of "defeated"..1st post on this thread. you can't miss it ( well you can)
    well alrighty then!

    let's fire half of these Homeland Security deadbeats NOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    well alrighty then!

    let's fire half of these Homeland Security deadbeats NOW!
    my bad for even taking you seriously for 1/2 a second

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    you wonder?
    Do you wonder why Mattis RESIGNED over it? do you wonder that we have to be there to "check Iran/Russia"
    (and you understand Syria is a Russian client state)

    do you wonder why Lindsey Graham blamed trump for "signaling" ISIS inspired the suicide bomber?

    C'mon Bill. The neocons and the neolibs ( like Obama in Libya and the current noise from Dems)
    want us there FOREVER..

    It's what they are..interventionists..

    Trump had the idea. get in and get out, but he took a beating over it and folded.
    Considering the entire foreign policy apparatus is full of interventionsist, it's a 'wonder' Trump
    got the right idea to begin with

    I think we are (hopefully) out in March....but ya never know
    So you are not in agreement w/ his leaving troops there??

    Getting them in there is easy, getting them out not so much......... Maybe Obama was right, it was a bad idea to go in there??

    Oddly enough~or not, most of those supporting the pullout seem to be on the left, the further left..

    I did appreciate the wht house coming out in support of the Kurds.. Not long ago it was looking like they were going to be abandoned..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    he capitulated
    Agreed!!!
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    So you are not in agreement w/ his leaving troops there??

    Getting them in there is easy, getting them out not so much......... Maybe Obama was right, it was a bad idea to go in there??

    Oddly enough~or not, most of those supporting the pullout seem to be on the left, the further left..

    I did appreciate the wht house coming out in support of the Kurds.. Not long ago it was looking like they were going to be abandoned..
    Bill; wake up. who are you talking to? Remember me and BAC and Libya and the scourge of interventionism?

    More importantly is if we stay there we shift from a counter-terrorism role ( literally killing terrorists in battle) to a nation building role.
    We're already so badly sucked into Afghanistan, I don't see a way out unless the regional players take over our security roles

    As to the left and the right you got good guys like Rand Paul on the right along with Tulsi Gabbard on the left.
    The rest are squishy Kurd supporters, or full bore neocons like Graham ( and many Dem Senators like Feinstein)

    I hear you on the Kurds . they always get screwed. Erdogan is out for blood and we can't stop him either.
    Russia and Iran put their stakes into Syria, so let them have it and maybe bleed out. Not really our concern

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    MOVE!

    THOSE!!

    GOALPOSTS!!!


    I don't know what's more pathetic; the fact that you were wrong about ISIS, or the fact that you feel you have to shift goalposts on an anonymous message board just to save face.
    Obama in 2012 - Isis dismissed as a JV team
    SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    "So, you remember when we said ISIS was defeated, well they are defeated if you accept our alternate definitions of 'ISIS' and 'defeated'."
    Obama in 2012 - Isis dismissed as a JV team
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    What I want to address is why you feel compelled to move goalposts to provide cover for Donald Trump.

    It takes a real fucking moron to do that...someone so stupid, they would be conned by a fat orange reality TV show host.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Then I wonder why trump capitulated & did a 180, leaving the troops there??
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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    I know, Trump said he done defeated ISIS!

    MAGA M'FUCKERS!
    Obama in 2012 - Isis dismissed as a JV team
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