Tell us again about how secure a wall would be, Trumptards....

[Nomad]

Then why did you mention "wall" when I showed that the area had no footings; instead of addressing that the main reason they were able to tunnel under, was because of no footing?

Do you even know why that section is the way it is?

I explained all that.

Don't blame your inability to understand simple details presented in plain English on me.

[USFREEDOM911]

I explained all that.

Don't blame your inability to understand simple details presented in plain English on me.

But the discussion had to do with that particular section and you immediately wanted to move the goal posts.

[Tkaffen]

Let’s not forget the con man Obama. He also wanted stricter border security. But of course he did nothing. He made no effort. Give me someone who will at least try.

[Frank Apisa]

Let’s not forget the con man Obama. He also wanted stricter border security. But of course he did nothing. He made no effort. Give me someone who will at least try.

Okay...we'll give him to you.

Take him. He is a useless moron.

[Sailor]

Okay...we'll give him to you.

Take him. He is a useless moron.

Obama? You must be racist. All Italians are. You pretended you liked him when he was giving you free shit. Now you kick him to the curb. Damn racist.

[Micawber]

I don't think a wall would not work at reducing or deterring some attempts where it is erected. Of course it would help do that.

I just think it's not cost effective, a symbol of hate, ugly, enormous, intrusive, litigious and ecologically bad.
Just overall a stupid idea. I'd rather employ more men than build a wall. I don't want to pay to condemn people's property.
I would rather pay contractors build golden superhighways, magnet trains and UAE diamond encrusted airports like Dump the fat pig also promised.

[cancel2 2022]

Then why did you mention "wall" when I showed that the area had no footings; instead of addressing that the main reason they were able to tunnel under, was because of no footing?

Do you even know why that section is the way it is?

Any new barrier/wall will be fitted with sophisticated acoustic detection devices, specifically designed to pick up the tell tale signs of tunnelling.

[floridafan]

Any new barrier/wall will be fitted with sophisticated acoustic detection devices, specifically designed to pick up the tell tale signs of tunnelling.

That sounds ridiculous, do you have a source for that or just your imagination?

[Frank Apisa]

Trump will probably get a descendant of Andre' Maginot to design and build the wall.

He is such a fucking moron.

[cancel2 2022]

Or maybe they should hire you to make lame, stupid, limp-wristed insults at them and call them septic cunts over and over and over again until they get bored and leave.

I call Septics like you cunts because you are, alles klar?

[cancel2 2022]

That sounds ridiculous, do you have a source for that or just your imagination?

Only to the likes of you, but then you're not very technology minded are you? The Berlin Wall used to have listening devices back in the 70s ffs!!

[floridafan]

Only to the likes of you, but then you're not very technology minded are you? The Berlin Wall used to have listening devices back in the 70s ffs!!

If such things exist they would be deployed right now!

[cancel2 2022]

If such things exist they would be deployed right now!

Have you heard of Brillouin optical time domain reflectometry (BOTDR)? No, of course not, that's way above your paygrade, isn't it?

[Rune]

It is so funny seeing a leftist crying about pissing away money

Solyndra anyone?

Solydra was just bad timing, dipstick.

[BRUTALITOPS]

Here's an idea.... let's piss away billions of taxpayer dollars just so Trump can brag to his idiot base that he kept his biggest campaign promise, while undocumented immigrants still pour underneath it via tunnels, hundreds at a time.



Largest single group of migrants ever tunnels under border wall: CBP
By Matt Gutman
SAN LUIS, Ariz. — Jan 18, 2019, 10:54 AM ET

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/larges...ry?id=60462672



The largest single group of asylum seekers ever to cross into the U.S. tunneled beneath the border wall near San Luis, Arizona, on Monday, voluntarily turning themselves into Customs and Border Protection, according to the agency.

Migrants can be seen marching toward Border Patrol agents by the hundreds, according to video obtained by ABC News. Smugglers dug a series of seven holes, only a few feet long beneath the steel border fence, with hundreds going beneath the wall and a smaller number clambering over it, according to CBP.

The fresh sand and scuff marks of shoes on the rusty steel were still there when ABC News visited the site on Thursday.

The agency says 179 of the record 376 people who crossed were children, including over 30 unaccompanied minors -- children under 18 traveling on their own.

The overall number of unauthorized crossings has plummeted since its peak in the 2001, when CBP logged about 1.6 million apprehensions, according to government statistics. However, the demography of those crossing has changed dramatically.

Parents with children now comprise over 80 percent of the total apprehensions of those crossing the 2,000-mile long border with Mexico. The vast majority of them, like the group near Yuma Monday, surrender immediately or seek out Border Patrol agents in order to begin the asylum process.

CBP Yuma Border Sector Chief Anthony Porvaznik said his unit needs better border barriers, but more urgently it needs funding to provide for these families.

"That's our No. 1 challenge that we have here in the Yuma sector, is the humanitarian problem," Porvaznik said. "As I mentioned, 87 percent of the apprehensions here are family units and unaccompanied alien children."

The mass crossing this week took place in a sparsely populated stretch of the border -- where an old model of border barrier rises about 12 feet from the sandy ground. The stretched agency only had three agents patrolling that 26-mile-long section of the border.

It took hours to process the families, most of which were sent to the area’s chronically overcrowded central processing center in Yuma.

"In my 30 years with the Border Patrol, I have not been part of arresting a group of 376 people," Porvaznik said. "That's really unheard of."

On Thursday, hundreds of asylum seekers were being held in cinderblock cells with thick glass windows that overlooked a central bullpen where CBP agents worked to process them and provide humanitarian needs. The asylum seekers were separated into cells: fathers with sons, fathers with daughters, unaccompanied minors and mothers with children.

As in all such facilities, the CBP said it works to process them as quickly as possible, and provides basic medical care. Still, detainees eat, sleep and use the bathroom in the same room. Scraps of food mingled with silvery space blankets on the floor. In one cell, several boys had balled up the blankets into a makeshift soccer ball they were kicking around.

One man in the group said he left Guatemala eight days ago and made most of the trip by bus along with his 12-year-old daughter. They were planning to leave the processing center destined for San Diego -- plane ticket in hand.

The father said he saved about $5,000 to pay a coyote to quickly get them to the border. He left a wife and two younger daughters back in Guatemala. Next to them were a mother and two daughters on their way to Cincinnati, also from Guatemala. They too traveled by bus and the journey took about eight days.

Just two days after the group tunneled under the border wall in Yuma, the Border Patrol took in another huge group of migrants in New Mexico. The 247-person group, including unaccompanied minors, crossed near the Antelope Wells Port of Entry and immediately surrendered to authorities for processing.

The CBP said 24 large groups -- quantified as 100 or more -- have crossed the border near Lordsburg, New Mexico, just since Oct. 1, 2018.

for me the wall is not about security. We would need land mines and shoot on sight policies for that. Instead, I like the symbol of it that third worlders need to stay the fuck out, and also we don’t have to look at ugly mexico