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    January 1, 1863 AD - The Emancipation Proclamation by President Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves in the states rebelling against the Union.

    January 11, 49 BC: Julius Caesar Crosses the Rubicon - Julius Caesar was known as a decisive general. When he chose to step forward, cross the Rubicon, and march on Rome with nothing but a single legion, this was one of the riskiest decisions in military history. Ultimately, it resulted in one of the most rewarding accomplishments: the rise of the Roman Empire (source credit: Professor Gregory Aldrete, University of Wisconsin)

    January 17, 1961 AD: Dwight D. Eisenhower warns the nation about the increasing power of the military-industrial complex. His remarks, issued during a televised farewell address to the American people, were particularly significant since Ike had famously served the nation as military commander of the Allied forces during WWII. Eisenhower urged his successors to strike a balance between a strong national defense and diplomacy in dealing with the Soviet Union. He did not suggest arms reduction and in fact acknowledged that the bomb was an effective deterrent to nuclear war. However, cognizant that America’s peacetime defense policy had changed drastically since his military career, Eisenhower expressed concerns about the growing influence of what he termed the military-industrial complex. (source credit: History.com)

    January 17, 1912 AD: Britain’s polar explorers led by Captain Robert Falcon Scott reach the South Pole – only to find the Norwegian Roald Amundsen’s expedition had beaten him by a month.

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    (anything about longest Government shut down in History?)

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    January historical trivia pertaining to Trump: the largest inauguration crowd ever on January 20, 2017. According to Trump, anyway.

    That assumes Trump wasn't lying his ass off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    January 1, 1863 AD - The Emancipation Proclamation by President Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves in the states rebelling against the Union.

    January 11, 49 BC: Julius Caesar Crosses the Rubicon - Julius Caesar was known as a decisive general. When he chose to step forward, cross the Rubicon, and march on Rome with nothing but a single legion, this was one of the riskiest decisions in military history. Ultimately, it resulted in one of the most rewarding accomplishments: the rise of the Roman Empire (source credit: Professor Gregory Aldrete, University of Wisconsin)

    January 17, 1961 AD: Dwight D. Eisenhower warns the nation about the increasing power of the military-industrial complex. His remarks, issued during a televised farewell address to the American people, were particularly significant since Ike had famously served the nation as military commander of the Allied forces during WWII. Eisenhower urged his successors to strike a balance between a strong national defense and diplomacy in dealing with the Soviet Union. He did not suggest arms reduction and in fact acknowledged that the bomb was an effective deterrent to nuclear war. However, cognizant that America’s peacetime defense policy had changed drastically since his military career, Eisenhower expressed concerns about the growing influence of what he termed the military-industrial complex. (source credit: History.com)

    January 17, 1912 AD: Britain’s polar explorers led by Captain Robert Falcon Scott reach the South Pole – only to find the Norwegian Roald Amundsen’s expedition had beaten him by a month.
    There is an irony there, Ike's military industrial complex theme was then intellectualized in C. Wright Mills power elite concept that partially contributed to the radical movements of the 1960's. What gained recognition with Ike became the antithesis of the exact establishment that created him, guess you could say Ike was the father of the New Left. I said irony

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    There is an irony there, Ike's military industrial complex theme was then intellectualized in C. Wright Mills power elite concept that partially contributed to the radical movements of the 1960's. What gained recognition with Ike became the antithesis of the exact establishment that created him, guess you could say Ike was the father of the New Left. I said irony
    Its really weird how true statemen like Teddy Roosevelt and Ike are almost persona non grata in the modern Republican Party, while Donald Trump, Sara Palin, George Dumbya Bush, and Bedtime for Bonzo are held out as the heroes, the role models of movement conservatism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Its really weird how true statemen like Teddy Roosevelt and Ike are almost persona non grata in the modern Republican Party, while Donald Trump, Sara Palin, George Dumbya Bush, and Bedtime for Bonzo are held out as the heroes, the role models of movement conservatism.
    Ike and TR represented a moderate GOP who still had conservative principles, minus the social, cultural, or religious populism you see today in the GOP. They are pre Goldwater, and today would be RINOs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    January 1, 1863 AD - The Emancipation Proclamation by President Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves in the states rebelling against the Union.

    January 11, 49 BC: Julius Caesar Crosses the Rubicon - Julius Caesar was known as a decisive general. When he chose to step forward, cross the Rubicon, and march on Rome with nothing but a single legion, this was one of the riskiest decisions in military history. Ultimately, it resulted in one of the most rewarding accomplishments: the rise of the Roman Empire (source credit: Professor Gregory Aldrete, University of Wisconsin)

    January 17, 1961 AD: Dwight D. Eisenhower warns the nation about the increasing power of the military-industrial complex. His remarks, issued during a televised farewell address to the American people, were particularly significant since Ike had famously served the nation as military commander of the Allied forces during WWII. Eisenhower urged his successors to strike a balance between a strong national defense and diplomacy in dealing with the Soviet Union. He did not suggest arms reduction and in fact acknowledged that the bomb was an effective deterrent to nuclear war. However, cognizant that America’s peacetime defense policy had changed drastically since his military career, Eisenhower expressed concerns about the growing influence of what he termed the military-industrial complex. (source credit: History.com)

    January 17, 1912 AD: Britain’s polar explorers led by Captain Robert Falcon Scott reach the South Pole – only to find the Norwegian Roald Amundsen’s expedition had beaten him by a month.
    I wouldn't call the crossing of the Rubicon a rewarding accomplishment.

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    (anything about longest Government shut down in History?)
    People will be getting Martin Luther King Day off without pay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    I wouldn't call the crossing of the Rubicon a rewarding accomplishment.
    Neither would I, it was awkward sounding and wasn't the right word to capture the historical significance, but it was the words used on the course syllabus I cut and pasted from. Crossing the Rubicon certainly was a very consequential and iconic event in historical antiquity.

    I only learned a few months ago where the idiomatic expression "crossing the Rubicon" (aka, no turning back) came from, and I suspect most journalists, writers, and authors who use the expression don't have a clue about its origins. I sure didn't!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Ike and TR represented a moderate GOP who still had conservative principles, minus the social, cultural, or religious populism you see today in the GOP. They are pre Goldwater, and today would be RINOs
    Today’s Republicans aren’t the same as Republicans of the 1910’s and neither are today’s Democrats. Times definitely change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Its really weird how true statemen like Teddy Roosevelt and Ike are almost persona non grata in the modern Republican Party, while Donald Trump, Sara Palin, George Dumbya Bush, and Bedtime for Bonzo are held out as the heroes, the role models of movement conservatism.
    I think you're being a tad harsh on old Dutch. I think his most significant accomplishments were diplomatic. Say what you want to about Reagan but in the end he got shit done and executed the end game on the Soviet Empire. He didn't "Win the Cold War" as Conservatives with a small c claim but he made significant contributions to the end game and his largest contributions were diplomatic. He refused to take excuses from the State Department and ordered them to cooperate with their Soviet Counterparts to make things happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Today’s Republicans aren’t the same as Republicans of the 1910’s and neither are today’s Democrats. Times definitely change.
    You haven't been to michigan lately, have you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Ike and TR represented a moderate GOP who still had conservative principles, minus the social, cultural, or religious populism you see today in the GOP. They are pre Goldwater, and today would be RINOs
    TR wasn't a moderate. He was a progressive and a reformer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    You haven't been to michigan lately, have you?
    LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    I wouldn't call the crossing of the Rubicon a rewarding accomplishment.
    Maybe...but it certainly was audacious and risky. Not even Caesar anticipated the Senate panicking and leaving Rome. One has to wonder if Pompey had stayed in Rome and waited till he recieved reliable intelligence of Caesars disposition. Cause if he had he could have stomped his foot and put around a half a dozen legions in the field against Caesar and Caesar would have had to retreat back into Cisalpine Gaul and be branded an Enemy of the State (Hostis) or gone down to military defeat.

    There were several times during Caesar Civil War against the Senate where Caesar took huge risks, probably should have lost but improbably won. Crossing the Rubicon was one. The Battle of Dyrrhachium was another. Had Pompey had properly followed up on that victory against Caesar history would consider Pompey Rome's greatest General and First Emperor.

    Those were just two examples of where Caesar benefited greatly from pure dumb luck.
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