We have greater wealth today than we had in the thirties. That is a simple fact. We are far more productive and have far more free time than we had in the thirties.
I am still trying to understand what is this "liberal Socialism" you speak of is and How it would be better?
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
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Functioning service economies can still provide goods. they are better goods designed to last, not go for the highest volume at the lowest price point. Why not have an economy based on minimizing consumption of labor instead of maximizing it. The problem isn't that everybody deserves an award. It is that everybody needs a big screen TV in every room of their house, a screen for every seat in their car, and a screen for every seat on an airplane.
While the things you mention raise the standard of living for the poor in europe, it comes at a price for others, thus the yellow vest protestors, etc etc etc. Countries like Germany are becomining economically polarized. European doctors bring home what an American nurse would.
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Except wealth isn't too centralized, although what you are advocating for is centralizing all wealth in the hands of the government which would undercut your entire position if that is your objection. Money and wealth are not the same thing. People being able to afford their own homes is wealth. People being provided a home by the government is not.
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"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Capitalism works for capitalists. Sometimes, for a while, it helps others, but never for long, and its current development will ensure the death of humanity. Enjoy!
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evince (01-18-2019)
Hello Kacper,
Your argument is self-contradictory.
You express a fear of too much wealth going to the government.
But then you also have a concern that the government is going to give it to the people.
So what is your REAL concern?
That it will be more difficult to become super-wealthy?
That it may become more difficult to hand that wealth down from generation to generation?
That succeeding generations of once-wealthy families may have to actually work for it themselves?
I don't think the government is in any danger of building a Federal Surplus into a vast fortune which is unavailable to the people.
The government doesn't sit on money or sequester it away from active circulation. The government doesn't act to shut down the economy. That's what the super-wealthy do.
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evince (01-18-2019)
I have expressed my concerns many times at this site. I am not sure how self-sufficiency and sustainable living are such foreign concepts to you. I guess you are too caught up in democratic culture war non-sense to see that people can be poorer in terms of income and have better quality of living, that poor people can be more self-sufficient than they currently are, or that super wealthy people's wealth depends on other super wealthy people wanting what they have so the government taking it would have no economic effect different than the government just creating that same amount of money out of thin air. Trillions of dollars being caught up in the capital markets at any given time increases the purchasing power of a dollar on Main Street. Put that money on Main Street and you will see outrageous inflation.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
The government is self-dealing. They do not manage the markets to maximize anything other than their ability to continue to service current debt while running up even more debt. Their obsession with growth has spread like a cancer throughout the American intellect. It is little more than chartalism at its finest. They might as well go full-neo and just mint some trillion dollar coins and be done with it.
Truth Detector (01-18-2019)
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