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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    its not working because the republicans refuse to properly fetter it
    That's what happens when the 1% gets too strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    People have to look for the cheapest price because Capitalism creates a society where most people don't have enough disposable income.
    Yet, we have far more disposable income now than we did back when manufacturing was at its peak. We also spend a lot less time working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The overall living standards are improving everywhere. We could look at North Korea and say things have gotten better there, dictatorships must be great.
    To know what works, we need to compare countries, and examine individual issues. I would say that America's living standards would grow faster with Liberal Socialism.
    What is this "liberal Socialism" you speak of? How would it be better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The wealth gap is worse now than during the Gilded Age. It is accomplished through tax breaks and laws that permit them to cheat. Holding the min. wage down for so long added to the problem. The wealthy used their money and power to continuously erode the structures that kept America from being a klepocracy. Nothing wong with capitalism that a lot of serious regiulation and laws cannot fix.
    So the gilded age was better? STFU you willful idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Yes, but if you're going to say living standards went up in America, so Capitalism is good, you can also say living standards went up in North Korea, so dictatorships are good.

    North Korea's command economy is more similar to America's Capitalism than it is to South Korea's economy which is Liberal Socialist, not Capitalist.
    North Korea's economy is not similar to "America's capitalism" and south Korea's economy is not "Liberal Socialist".

    It just sounds like you're grabbing these out of thin air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    People have to look for the cheapest price because Capitalism creates a society where most people don't have enough disposable income.
    I'm guessing that you never took an introductory course on economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Yet, we have far more disposable income now than we did back when manufacturing was at its peak. We also spend a lot less time working.
    True, but it's still not as much as it should be. The fact that 40% of people don't have $400 for an emergency is a big problem.
    We also have to be careful with statistics relating to "disposable income," since it can be defined subjectively.
    And the wealth gap hasn't been this bad since the thirties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But the government will be able to do that if we stopped wasting so much money on foreign wars and occupations, and taxed the 1% at higher rates.
    We don't have wars of occupation. What is wrong with liberals on the left? America doesn't start wars; we end them. The Defense budget amounts to 15% of the total spent and as a percent of GDP is at all time lows.

    Once again, you are barking at the wrong door and lack facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    its not working because the republicans refuse to properly fetter it
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Not really. The government is owned by the 1%. We made the mistake of letting wealth and power become too centralized.
    How do they "own" the Government? How did we LET wealth become centralized?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    tax the bottom 10% at higher rates to slow down the consumerism.
    How about we better educate the bottom 10% and stop making excuses for failure and speed up consumerism with higher paid job growth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Yes, but if you're going to say living standards went up in America, so Capitalism is good, you can also say living standards went up in North Korea, so dictatorships are good.
    You can say something like that, but it would be stupid and false. Seriously?


    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    North Korea's command economy is more similar to America's Capitalism
    Another painfully stupid claim and patently false.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    First of all, American intervention in WWI helped to create Nazism and Fascism.
    How is that even credible?

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    Secondly, getting involved in WWII led to Soviet occupation in Eastern Europe. And finally, I'm not saying we have to ignore the world. I'm saying we need to stop unnecessary wars and occupations.
    I guess you forgot the part where we were attacked. Good lord dude, you're sounding like a deluded, low IQ idiot now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    People spending money is good, that's what causes the economy to thrive. Things get bad when there isn't enough money moving around, and that's what happens under Capitalism because wealth becomes too centralized.
    So Venezuela is a shining success and Socialist utopia in your little mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But because of social programs, such as universal health care and affordable college, living standards are still higher in European and East Asian Liberal Socialist countries than in America.
    Have you ever lived in Europe or been to Asia? The living standards are NOTHING like we have here.
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