kudzu (01-18-2019)
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so you want to eliminate Nordstream2?
Do you think the US should compensate Germany for the extra costs incurred by shipping US or Qatar or whomever
to German ports by LNG carrier ships? Instead of a pipeline from Russia?
And actually i think it's important NOT to collapse Russian exports. I don't want to see a starving Russia
One of these days when Russiaphobia is over we're gonna be concerned about getting Russia back away from China.
Plus from a supply side the nat gas is not at risk. Russia badly needs the cash
kudzu (01-18-2019)
Trump is trying to kill globalization in other ways.
Kevin Kester is used to taking the long view—his family has raised cattle on the land his Bear Valley Ranch occupies in California since 1867. But he also can see what looms in the not-too-distant future across the Pacific Ocean.
The 11-country trade deal once known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership has started to come into force, giving his Australian competitors what stands in coming years to be an increasingly valuable leg up in Japan, the U.S.’s most lucrative export market for beef. Thanks to President Trump’s withdrawal from the TPP—one of his first acts in office—American ranchers won’t get any of the benefits of the reduced tariffs for beef and other farm products U.S. negotiators spent years haggling over with Japan, the pact’s biggest remaining economy.
Kester isn’t just another bemused bystander to American politics. As the current volunteer president of the powerful National Cattlemen’s Beef Association, he serves on committees that advise Trump and his cabinet on agricultural policy and trade.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...p?srnd=premium
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine
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dukkha (01-18-2019)
If the Germans weren't so in thrall to the useless Greens they would start fracking domestically like we are doing in England. We ship gas from both the US and Qatar as well as from Norwegian and Dutch pipelines under the North Sea. So not really sure what your point is, my point is simple enough, the name of the game is diversification and security. Trump and Obama didn't agree on much, but they agreed on that.
https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/fracking-europe
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kudzu (01-18-2019)
cancel2 2022 (01-18-2019)
You need to read this, there is much opposition to it both in Germany and Eastern Europe.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekea...dy-underwater/
dukkha (01-18-2019)
kudzu (01-18-2019)
They are also buying gas from Algeria and Brent..
Is Germany a ‘captive’ of Russia?
Not really.
Germans view Russia more favorably than Americans do. And United States governments have been complaining about Germany’s dependence on Russian gas for years, even if Mr. Trump has done so more bluntly. But Germany has endorsed tough sanctions on Russia even when they looked likely to hurt German business, and German companies have gone along.
Last year, the German manufacturer Siemens stopped delivery of power plant turbines to a Russian partner when it emerged that it was transporting them into the disputed territory of Crimea.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/11/w...ussia-gas.html
In examining similar claims last year, The Times showed that Mr. Trump was conflating two things: NATO’s budget covering common civilian and military costs and the goal for each member to spend at least 2 percent of their gross domestic product on their militaries by 2024.
To date, four members — the United States, Poland, the United Kingdom and Estonia — have reached that goal. But none of the NATO allies are technically in arrears.
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine
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