UK’s AFC Energy launches CH2ARGE - world’s first fuel cell electric car charger

**cancel2 2022** · 01-17-2019, 03:59 AM

Rune normally has kittens every time I mention hydrogen but he might be conflicted by this though? I have a vested interest in this as I have shares in the company.

afcenergy_diagram_aw.jpg

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-ne...ogen-fuel-cell

**cancel2 2022** · 01-17-2019, 06:05 AM

They have gone up over 40% today!!

**cancel2 2022** · 01-18-2019, 08:57 AM

Good article in today's Telegraph.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/new...ric-cars-will/

**cancel2 2022** · 01-19-2019, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by Havana Moon

Rune normally has kittens every time I mention hydrogen but he might be conflicted by this though? I have a vested interest in this as I have shares in the company.

afcenergy_diagram_aw.jpg

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-ne...ogen-fuel-cell

Where is Runeatic when you need him?

**Althea** · 01-19-2019, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by Havana Moon

They have gone up over 40% today!!

And down 15% yesterday. Down 50% for the year. I think it's cool to invest in this tech. I wouldn't watch it by the hour, though. The trick is obviously going to be the transport/handling of the Hydrogen.

**cancel2 2022** · 01-19-2019, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by Althea

And down 15% yesterday. Down 50% for the year. I think it's cool to invest in this tech. I wouldn't watch it by the hour, though. The trick is obviously going to be the transport/handling of the Hydrogen.

Yes it's gone down, it's done that before as well. Small cap stocks tend to be subject to wild fluctustions, I bought at around 4p so still making a profit. Transporting hydrogen is not really a problem, despite what the likes of Rune say to the contrary. Please don't try arguing about that, I won't respond.

**Althea** · 01-19-2019, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Havana Moon

Yes it's gone down, it's done that before as well. Small cap stocks tend to be subject to wild fluctustions, I bought at around 4p so still making a profit. Transporting hydrogen is not really a problem, despite what the likes of Rune say to the contrary. Please don't try arguing about that, I won't respond.

Talk to yourself for all I care. Did you start a thread in order to obtain help monitoring your investment?

The real question will be the cost to take inexpensive methane, convert/ship it to the sites. It's great that these units will be off the grid. They claim the costs will be about the same as current technology.

I assume that remains to be seen. Personally, I'm focused on stocks that pay dividends. I'm done relying on management to avoid raping the coffers before sharing the spoils with investors. The marijuana industry suffers the same issues.

Let's all watch as you get rich

https://www.google.com/search?source...10.gkXj6IgiJTc

**cancel2 2022** · 01-19-2019, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by Althea

Talk to yourself for all I care. Did you start a thread in order to obtain help monitoring your investment?

The real question will be the cost to take inexpensive methane, convert/ship it to the sites. It's great that these units will be off the grid. They claim the costs will be about the same as current technology.

I assume that remains to be seen. Personally, I'm focused on stocks that pay dividends. I'm done relying on management to avoid raping the coffers before sharing the spoils with investors. The marijuana industry suffers the same issues.

Let's all watch as you get rich

https://www.google.com/search?source...10.gkXj6IgiJTc

There are several ways to obtain the hydrogen; electrolysis of water, waste hydrogen from chlorine industry and methane dehydrogenation. There is also a new method that shows promise and is significantly cheaper.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40422537...-cars-feasible

I have a pretty well balanced portfolio so that I am able to indulge in such flights of fancy.

**Althea** · 01-19-2019, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Havana Moon

There are several ways to obtain the hydrogen; electrolysis of water, waste product from chlorine industry and methane dehydrogenation.

I'm aware. Your investment cited methane. Last time we were discussing the transport of ammonia.

**cancel2 2022** · 01-19-2019, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Althea

Talk to yourself for all I care. Did you start a thread in order to obtain help monitoring your investment?

The real question will be the cost to take inexpensive methane, convert/ship it to the sites. It's great that these units will be off the grid. They claim the costs will be about the same as current technology.

I assume that remains to be seen. Personally, I'm focused on stocks that pay dividends. I'm done relying on management to avoid raping the coffers before sharing the spoils with investors. The marijuana industry suffers the same issues.

Let's all watch as you get rich

https://www.google.com/search?source...10.gkXj6IgiJTc

I don't mind talking to you if you're constructive, however too often in the past you just seem to want to argue and stir up shit!!

**cancel2 2022** · 01-19-2019, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Althea

I'm aware. Your investment cited methane. Last time we were discussing the transport of ammonia.

Yes, conversion to ammonia is an excellent idea if you're transporting hydrogen in bulk by ship across oceans. AFC is also producing fuel cells that produce electricity for use by industry. Here is an example in Australia.

https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk...er-208300.html

**Jack** · 01-19-2019, 07:57 AM

What could go wrong?

**Althea** · 01-19-2019, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Havana Moon

Yes, conversion to ammonia is an excellent idea if you're transporting hydrogen in bulk by ship across oceans. AFC is also producing fuel cells that produce electricity for use by industry. Here is an example in Australia.

https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk...er-208300.html

Re. the OP, what do they claim the costs will be to charge vehicles given the costs for conversion of methane, etc?

**cancel2 2022** · 01-19-2019, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Althea

Re. the OP, what do they claim the costs will be to charge vehicles given the costs for conversion of methane, etc?

As I've already said there are various sources for hydrogen. There is a huge amount produced as a by-product by chlorine industry.

As much as 60% of industrial chemicals produced rely on the manufacture of chlorine in some way. In the UK over 1.6 million tonnes of chlorine are produced annually, with some 44 million tonnes being produced worldwide.

http://www.greener-industry.org.uk/p...hlorine_AP.htm

**cancel2 2022** · 01-19-2019, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Althea

Re. the OP, what do they claim the costs will be to charge vehicles given the costs for conversion of methane, etc?

Short answer, I don't know offhand. However there is a huge amount of research going on right now to reduce the cost of hydrolysis using cheap catalysts. This would partially address the storage problem with wind turbines by using the electricity to produce hydrogen.

https://www.nrel.gov/hydrogen/wind-to-hydrogen.html