What do you think... At what point does Rump cave? Pelosi?

[Gotcha68]

It’s not the money but the wall—and everyone knows it.

Democrats want to deprive Trump of fulfilling a campaign promise.

He's had 2 years of complete control of everything to fulfill that campaign promise. Why is it imperative NOW that he get it done?

[Jarod]

Yeah, so? How does that equate to a free-fall, like you claimed? I think perhaps you don't have a firm grasp on the concept of, free fall. LOL

It’s dropping with no sign of letting up! Free fall.

[Darth Omar]

He's had 2 years of complete control of everything to fulfill that campaign promise. Why is it imperative NOW that he get it done?

I admit he made a mistake in not going for it before the midterms.

My point is democrats don’t care about the 5B for the wall.

[Frank Apisa]

If the Trump supporter assholes in this thread can, with a straight face, claim that the Democrats own the shut-down rather than Donald Trump (who declared openly that he owned it)...

...they surely will pretend it is the Democrats caving when Trump eventually CAVES.

Poor fools.

Trump is laughable.

Trump's supporters are even more laughable.

[Darth Omar]

If the Trump supporter assholes in this thread can, with a straight face, claim that the Democrats own the shut-down rather than Donald Trump (who declared openly that he owned it)...

...they surely will pretend it is the Democrats caving when Trump eventually CAVES.

Poor fools.

Trump is laughable.

Trump's supporters are even more laughable.

Frankie, for a supposed logician you’ve gotten a little sloppy lately lol.

There would be no shutdown without democrats. It takes two parties to make a shutdown.

[Frank Apisa]

Frankie, for a supposed logician you’ve gotten a little sloppy lately lol.

There would be no shutdown without democrats. It takes two parties to make a shutdown.

Nothing sloppy about what I wrote...and you know that.

You poor bastards really have your hands full defending this out-of-control child. Mostly I laugh at you...but there actually are days when I pity you.

Your Dear Leader stated:

"If we don’t get what we want one way or the other, whether it’s through you, it’s through military, I will shut down the government. I am proud to shutdown the government for border security . . . I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down.”

He even told Schumer: “I won’t blame you for it.”

Schumer had trouble holding back the laughter...probably thinking, "Now I understand why this guy bankrupts so many of his companies. He is not only an idiot, he is a lousy negotiator."

Perhaps it does take two parties to make a shut down (although one party was able to do it twice before during this administration) but your Dear Leader, Donald Trump, INSISTED THIS ONE WAS ON HIM.

You poor bastards!

[Darth Omar]

Nothing sloppy about what I wrote...and you know that.

You poor bastards really have your hands full defending this out-of-control child. Mostly I laugh at you...but there actually are days when I pity you.

Your Dear Leader stated:

"If we don’t get what we want one way or the other, whether it’s through you, it’s through military, I will shut down the government. I am proud to shutdown the government for border security . . . I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down.”

He even told Schumer: “I won’t blame you for it.”

Schumer had trouble holding back the laughter...probably thinking, "Now I understand why this guy bankrupts so many of his companies. He is not only an idiot, he is a lousy negotiator."

Perhaps it does take two parties to make a shut down (although one party was able to do it twice before during this administration) but your Dear Leader, Donald Trump, INSISTED THIS ONE WAS ON HIM.

You poor bastards!

Trump can claim to own the moon, Frankie lol.

The government is shutdown over 5B in a trillion dollar budget. It’s a fact.

[Frank Apisa]

Trump can claim to own the moon, Frankie lol.

The government is shutdown over 5B in a trillion dollar budget. It’s a fact.

If Trump were to claim to own the moon, Darth, guys like you would swear that he does.

Poor, poor souls.

The government shut-down is because the president refuses to sign legislation approved by a vast majority of members of BOTH houses of congress.

That is why the government is shut down.

Donald Trump, in effect, is on the floor kicking his heels and yelling like a toddler. He wants a wall that the congress does not want...that the people overwhelmingly do not want...simply because he promised it to the morons who support him.

This is Donald Trump's shut-down. He owns it. He is proud that he owns it.

And he is counting on the sheep who would not desert him if he shot someone on Fifth Avenue...to defend him.

Poor, poor sheep.

[Darth Omar]

If Trump were to claim to own the moon, Darth, guys like you would swear that he does.

Poor, poor souls.

The government shut-down is because the president refuses to sign legislation approved by a vast majority of members of BOTH houses of congress.

That is why the government is shut down.

Donald Trump, in effect, is on the floor kicking his heels and yelling like a toddler. He wants a wall that the congress does not want...that the people overwhelmingly do not want...simply because he promised it to the morons who support him.

This is Donald Trump's shut-down. He owns it. He is proud that he owns it.

And he is counting on the sheep who would not desert him if he shot someone on Fifth Avenue...to defend him.

Poor, poor sheep.

You disagree that the government is shut down over a 5B allocation for a wall, Frankie?

[canceled.2021.1]

When Air Traffic controllers and TSA start quitting for paying jobs, the airlines will get pissed and pay Trump to cave.

What you describe is against the law

[PostmodernProphet]

What you describe is against the law

not necessarily.......if the airlines want to donate an extra $5B to match the $5B that Pelosi will eventually give him, we can build twice as much security at the border.....

[Irish Exit]

The president's approval ratings appear to be in free-fall, even among uneducated white men, the approval is dropping.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

At what point does he cave? What if he drops into the 20's? Would he care? What if an airplane drops out of the sky because someone got a bomb on? What if e coli kills 5 kids in the Midwest because of un-inspected food?


Same for Pelosi and Schumer? I haven't seen polling data on them, but when do you think they would cave? What might cause them to back down?

Chuck and Nancy will cave as soon as the democratic base realizes they won't be getting their March SNAP benefits and go apeshit crazy.

[Jarod]

Chuck and Nancy will cave as soon as the democratic base realizes they won't be getting their March SNAP benefits and go apeshit crazy.

Maybe, or would that cause Rump to cave, his corporate master Walmart will not be happy if their customers dont have their SNAP!!!

[Irish Exit]

Maybe, or would that cause Rump to cave, his corporate master Walmart will not be happy if their customers dont have their SNAP!!!

Blacks are becoming discontent with the DNC favor Hispanics over them.

[Phantasmal]

Blacks are becoming discontent with the DNC favor Hispanics over them.

Really?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...term-elections