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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    The rates may have been higher, but what was the effective rate? Do you know? Did the rich actually pay more taxes back then?
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-richest-paid/

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    The rates may have been higher, but what was the effective rate? Do you know? Did the rich actually pay more taxes back then?
    Yes, they did pay more in taxes back then. Particularly corporate taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    It's only a matter of time before America will start to accept taxing religion as well.

    the racist right for decades has convinced the American people that paying taxes is a bad thing.
    An idea whose time is long overdue!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Sooo, you can't, or won't answer a couple of simple questions? I tried your link, but didn't even get through two sentences before it said I was an android winner, and wouldn't even let me back out of the screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    An idea whose time is long overdue!

    Lol, Olsteen, what a snake oil peddler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Sooo, you can't, or won't answer a couple of simple questions? I tried your link, but didn't even get through two sentences before it said I was an android winner, and wouldn't even let me back out of the screen.
    So after losing the argument on marginal rates, you now shift the goalposts to talk effective rates.

    Well, effective tax rates for corporations were much higher than they are now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Sooo, you can't, or won't answer a couple of simple questions? I tried your link, but didn't even get through two sentences before it said I was an android winner, and wouldn't even let me back out of the screen.
    The irony here is very few, if any, actually paid that rate. At that time there were so many deductions plus just outright evasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Sooo, you can't, or won't answer a couple of simple questions? I tried your link, but didn't even get through two sentences before it said I was an android winner, and wouldn't even let me back out of the screen.
    Also, the effective tax rate was higher in the 50's -when the top rate was 90%- than it is today...it was about 6% higher back then.

    Average-Effective-Tax-Rate-on-the-Top-1-Percent-of-U.S.-Households.jpg

    Effective Tax Rate 1950's: Approximately 42%
    Effective Tax Rate 2014: Approximately 36%

    So the effective rate was higher...unless numbers don't have value anymore because otherwise Conservatives can't make arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    The irony here is very few, if any, actually paid that rate. At that time there were so many deductions plus just outright evasion.
    That's exactly right, and why Owl won't answer the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    The irony here is very few, if any, actually paid that rate. At that time there were so many deductions plus just outright evasion.
    Name one single deduction from 1946-1981 that prevented any rich person from paying the top rate.

    Just one.

    I don't think you can do that.

    You're just repeating bullshit you gleaned that confirms your bias, aren't you? You do that a lot, you know. It's kinda your habit.

    So if no one paid the rate back then, what's the harm in raising it back to that rate today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    That's exactly right, and why Owl won't answer the question.
    No.

    You claim these deductions existed that prevented anyone from paying the top rate.

    Name one.

    Name one deduction that prevented a rich person from paying the top rate.

    Just one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Lol, Olsteen, what a snake oil peddler.
    A snake oil peddler who doesn't pay a dime in taxes.

    And they have their hands all up in our politics ………

    start taxing these frauds...….and the NFL too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    A snake oil peddler who doesn't pay a dime in taxes.

    And they have their hands all up in our politics ………

    start taxing these frauds...….and the NFL too.
    What makes you believe Osteen doesn't pay taxes on his personal income?
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    Dems need to put a 70% top tax in their 2020 platform

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Dems need to put a 70% top tax in their 2020 platform
    They definitely do.

    It has the support of 59% of Americans.

    Nothing Trump or the GOP does or believes has 59% support.
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