59% support AOC's plan to raise top bracket to 70%

[LV426]

Well it is for simpletons like you, of course.

It's not simplistic, it's necessary.

We have to erase Conservatism entirely from society.

That means undoing all its effects on our tax code.

That means yanking Fox News off the air.

That means isolating and excluding you from the debate.

That means diminishing your representation or eliminating it entirely.

There is no need to include you people in any discussions or any policy moving forward since your minds were so weak, your instincts so bad, your judgment so poor, and your character so rotten you got conned into supporting Trump.

[LV426]

you sure you want to stand by these ^^^ numbers?

Yup:

Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary
Summary of Receipts, Outlays, and Surpluses or Deficits (-)
In Current Dollars
(In Billions)

Receipts:
2012: $2,450.0
2013: $2,775.1
+$325.1
$325.1/$2,450 = 13.3%

last chance

Kill yourself.

[Getin the ring]

nope you said we could raise an additional 325 billion in revenue by increasing the top bracket from 35 to 39.5.

So you're claiming you know where 8 trillion dollars is you can tax to make that kind of dough.
It's math goober

so, give me some statistics that show we have 8 trillion dollars worth of rich people that make over 10 million each (((crickets)))

your problem is you're so stupid you let your mouth get ahead of your brain

[LV426]

nope you said we could raise an additional 325 billion in revenue by increasing the top bracket from 35 to 39.5.

Not that we could, but that we did raise $325B more dollars when we let the top tax rate return to what it was before Bush the Dumber.

I didn't quantify that amount to the tax increase...I merely said that revenue increased more than ever before after we let the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich expire.

Your argument is that raising taxes results in less revenue, and there is no empirical data that proves that.

So you're just spitting out bullshit because you don't want to admit that raising taxes raises revenue, and revenue can be used to offset out of pocket costs for individuals on things like health care and education, and that it can provide for good paying jobs like in a Green New Deal.

[LV426]

So you're claiming you know where 8 trillion dollars is you can tax to make that kind of dough.

What the fuck are you blabbering about? Did you have a stroke?

[LV426]

so, give me some statistics that show we have 8 trillion dollars worth of rich people that make over 10 million each

I never said anything to this effect, and I don't know how you're coming to these numbers.

All I said was that contrary to what you claim, raising taxes has never once reduced revenue. Never. Not once. And that when Obama let the Bush Tax Cuts expire on the wealthy, revenues grew more in that one year than they ever had before.

However, there is plenty of empirical and enumerated data that shows cutting taxes reduces revenue, and we can see that plainly in revenue from 2001-2004, four years of Bush Tax Cuts where the revenue collected was less than in the year 2000.

[Callinectes]

Follow the link, douchebag.

Hey douche drinker, I don't do polls since 2016, they've become meaningless.

[LV426]

Hey douche drinker, I don't do polls since 2016, they've become meaningless.

Then why did you respond, asking about who was polled?

FFS, you could just have not responded at all, but you chose to anyway.

Why?

[Callinectes]

I never said anything to this effect, and I don't know how you're coming to these numbers.

All I said was that contrary to what you claim, raising taxes has never once reduced revenue. Never. Not once. And that when Obama let the Bush Tax Cuts expire on the wealthy, revenues grew more in that one year than they ever had before.

However, there is plenty of empirical and enumerated data that shows cutting taxes reduces revenue, and we can see that plainly in revenue from 2001-2004, four years of Bush Tax Cuts where the revenue collected was less than in the year 2000.

And why in the HELL would I want the fucking government to EVER see an INCREASE in revenue?? Every quarter for 8 years of obama, the same headline over and over: :"IRS collects record amount of tax revenue", and it's been the same for the past 2 years under Trump! WITH the tax cuts!! Fuck the government, let THEM struggle to pay THEIR bills!

[LV426]

And why in the HELL would I want the fucking government to EVER see an INCREASE in revenue??

Well, for starters, because of inflation.

We get it; you're anti-social. That's fine. If you don't want to participate in society, self-deport or self-isolate. But don't drag us into your miserable world because going out in public gives you crippling anxiety you'll never be able to overcome.

[LV426]

Every quarter for 8 years of obama, the same headline over and over: :"IRS collects record amount of tax revenue

With the exception of tax cut years and recessions, the government always collects more revenue than the year before because the economy grows and because of inflation.

You are anti-social and rather than self-isolating, you want others to adhere to your shitty belief system.

Just kill yourself if that's the case. That way, you won't have to pay any taxes and you won't have to participate in society.

[LV426]

and it's been the same for the past 2 years under Trump! WITH the tax cuts!!

Wrong.

The Russia Tax Cut didn't take effect until 2018, and revenue for 2018 hasn't been determined yet.

In fact, the tax policy center estimates revenue growth from 2017-2018 will be less than 1%.

By contrast, when the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich expired at the end of 2012, 2013 revenue grew 13%.

Fuck the government, let THEM struggle to pay THEIR bills!

We are the government, jackass, and the government is us.

Just because you don't want to participate in society doesn't mean you can avoid it.

If you are that anti-social, fucking kill yourself.

[Callinectes]

Then why did you respond, asking about who was polled?

FFS, you could just have not responded at all, but you chose to anyway.

Why?

I'm sorry, I forgot most things zip over your head like the space shuttle returning to earth. I was merely pointing out that after 2016, I have found that most political polling must be taken with a grain of salt, and I don't want to wade through the quagmire to find anything worth using in my decision making process. My gut has a much better track record. Oh, but I'm sure your leftard friends on here find your intellect to be superlative, just ask them to take a poll

[evince]

Poll: A majority of Americans support raising the top tax rate to 70 percent

In the latest The Hill-HarrisX survey, which was conducted Jan. 12 and 13 after the newly elected congresswoman called for the U.S. to raise its highest tax rate to 70 percent, found that a sizable majority of registered voters, 59 percent, supports the idea.

...

45 percent of GOP voters say they favor it while 55 percent are opposed to it. Independent voters who were contacted backed the tax idea by a 60 to 40 percent margin while Democratic ones favored it, 71 percent to 29 percent.
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-amer...tax-rate-to-70

the internets make it too easy for voters to get the facts republicans have lied about for decades

[LV426]

I was merely pointing out that after 2016, I have found that most political polling must be taken with a grain of salt

Why is that?

The 2016 polls were accurate...they predicted a Clinton margin of about 3% and that's what she got.

The polls weren't polls of the electoral college, and you know that.

So why are you engaging in sophistry? Simple; because you don't know any other way to act.