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    I wish I could say that this was my idea because it seems to have some merit. What if we "open" the government and within, say, ninety days we have a national referendum on, the wall?
    The decision of the voters would be binding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    I wish I could say that this was my idea because it seems to have some merit. What if we "open" the government and within, say, ninety days we have a national referendum on, the wall?
    The decision of the voters would be binding.
    Cool.

    Or, make a Deal. Trump gets his Wall, Dems get DACA. (Isn't that what these assholes are elected for, to compromise and get things accomplished?)

    Meanwhile:


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    There is no legal basis for holding a federal referendum in the US so it would be of no legal effect whatsoever. You would first have to amend the constitution.

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    Could you hold a Referendum on legalizing Cannabis? Or is that illegal too?

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    Referendums were never held in the UK until the 1970s and they are still not legally binding.

    The two main national referendums were: 1975 - staying in the European Community; and 2016 - leaving it.

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    Rump would not agree, he would lose badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    I wish I could say that this was my idea because it seems to have some merit. What if we "open" the government and within, say, ninety days we have a national referendum on, the wall?
    The decision of the voters would be binding.
    A terrible precedent for a representative democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Cool.

    Or, make a Deal. Trump gets his Wall, Dems get DACA. (Isn't that what these assholes are elected for, to compromise and get things accomplished?)

    Meanwhile:

    Dems gave Trump 20 billion for the wall to get DACA and Trump rejected it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    There is no legal basis for holding a federal referendum in the US so it would be of no legal effect whatsoever. You would first have to amend the constitution.
    There's lots of populists and progressives who would form an unholy alliance in support of such an amendment. TR once spoke in favour of a national referendum for the people to override SCOTUS decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    There's lots of populists and progressives who would form an unholy alliance in support of such an amendment. TR once spoke in favour of a national referendum for the people to override SCOTUS decisions.
    Live by the sword and die by the sword, but you may be correct. It would just be an issue of the process by which a referendum could be called. My guess is they would still design it in a way to make sure it seldom happened unless Wall Street and the party star chambers approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Dems gave Trump 20 billion for the wall to get DACA and Trump rejected it.
    Maybe he is in a position to get his mind right?

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