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Thread: 3 Reasons Why Gillette's 'Toxic Masculinity' Ad Is Incredibly Stupid And Degrading

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    can you say Russians folks


    teaching morals is bad


    only a sociopath would go there

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    We already teach people that. We don't need a company preaching it to us to score virtue points with you nutty women
    Then change the fucking channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Then change the fucking channel.
    No kidding. And I stop buying P&G products. I know how to avoid you fucking liberal douchebags if I want to. It's amusing to see how desperately whiny you are and the intense drama with every issue. OMG the person on the subway is racist!! Shout it from the mountain top!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post




    not being bully used to be something everyone taught their kids


    when did it become bad?
    virtue signaling: teaching morals


    the right just hates that

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    No kidding. And I stop buying P&G products. I know how to avoid you fucking liberal douchebags if I want to. It's amusing to see how desperately whiny you are and the intense drama with every issue. OMG the person on the subway is racist!! Shout it from the mountain top!!
    a society ends racism by shaming racism

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    There's only one thing that makes the ad ill advised... it alienates some people who would buy their product. Now, they think they are being responsible citizens by doing this and know some people might take the ad and want to shove it right back at them and likely will stop buying their product, but they are also betting that there are people who will buy their product because of the ad that might otherwise buy somebody else's product.

    My guess is that they recognized that the ad would be considered "stupid" by some people and thought that this was the best thing to do regardless.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    There's only one thing that makes the ad ill advised... it alienates some people who would buy their product. Now, they think they are being responsible citizens by doing this and know some people might take the ad and want to shove it right back at them and likely will stop buying their product, but they are also betting that there are people who will buy their product because of the ad that might otherwise buy somebody else's product.

    My guess is that they recognized that the ad would be considered "stupid" by some people and thought that this was the best thing to do regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    a society ends racism by shaming racism
    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    I spit in the face of the black guy.
    Are you ashamed yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    a society ends racism by shaming racism
    How is that possible, when you have no shame?
    Every life matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    No kidding. And I stop buying P&G products. I know how to avoid you fucking liberal douchebags if I want to. It's amusing to see how desperately whiny you are and the intense drama with every issue. OMG the person on the subway is racist!! Shout it from the mountain top!!
    What I’m seeing here, pally boy, is the right shitting their collective diapers. There’s your drama, queenie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    he fine folks at Gillette recently decided to take a break from peddling overpriced razors and instead focus on insulting their entire customer base. Presumably taking the advice of a marketing agency staffed exclusively by pink-haired feminists, Gillette released an ad this week which encourages men to stop raping and bullying and doing all of the other things that men will inevitably do until their shaving cream tells them not to.

    The video, which has racked up an impressive 313 thousand dislikes on YouTube, opens with various scenes of men and boys doing various obnoxious and awful things. It is implied that we men have excused these behaviors by shrugging and muttering "boys will be boys." The ad makes this point very subtly, by showing a line of men saying "boys will be boys" in unison as they watch two other boys fight.

    But then! "Something finally changed," the narrator tells us. "There will be no going back," we are assured. What changed? The Me Too movement. This, according to Gillette, was the seminal moment when men realized that they aren't supposed to rape, assault, harass, or bully. We learned to "act the right way." Though, the narrator allows, "some already are." Then we are shown various examples of men doing really basic, human things, like encouraging their children and breaking up fights.

    Feminists love the ad and apparently cannot understand why so many men have reacted negatively to it. I thought I would help them out by offering a mansplaination:

    1) The Me Too movement didn't "change" anything for most of us. It is obviously insulting, not to mention absurd, to suggest that men, as a whole, experienced some sort of great awakening when Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, and Kevin Spacey got in trouble. We already knew that it's wrong to rape. We were already well aware that harassment is not okay. There is not a single man on Earth who watched a news report about Weinstein, slapped his forehead, and said, "Oh! So we're not supposed to do that? Alright then! My mistake!" Even the men who do those things already knew they weren't supposed to do them. They do the things anyway because they are evil, and that's what evil people do.

    But the vast majority of men are not rapists or harassers and were, prior to this past year, already staunchly opposed to both activities. There was nothing epiphanic or revolutionary about Me Too for us. To insinuate that we learned that rape and assault are bad, or that we needed needed to learn such a lesson, is patronizing in the extreme.

    2) "Boys will be boys" is not a rationale for bad behavior. In my entire life I have never once heard anyone, ever, offer "boys will be boys" as an excuse for rape or bullying. I have never seen a bunch of men standing around watching a kid pummel another kid while they all nod in approval and say "boys will be boys" to one another, like programed automatons. Have the people at Gillette ever even met an actual human man before? Perhaps not. Maybe that's why they think we need a razor with 14 blades to shave in the morning, as if our beards are made from the steel bristles of a wire brush.

    In any case, "boys will be boys" does not generally function as an excuse. It is a cliche but, like many cliches, it contains great wisdom. Boys will indeed be boys, and should be boys, and should be allowed to be boys without their natural boy-ness being constantly suppressed. Boys are energetic, aggressive, creative, competitive. They need safe and accepting outlets for these impulses. Incidentally, rolling around and roughhousing is one such outlet. The ad shows an enlightened man swooping in to stop a couple of young boys from wrestling around in the grass, which is exactly the wrong approach. As long as it's all in good fun, and nobody is getting seriously hurt, and it is not a case of assault or actual bullying, then the fatherly instinct to step back and let the boys be boys is correct.

    There are only, in the end, two options. Either we let boys act like boys or we force them to act like girls. But the latter option makes as much sense as forcing girls to act like boys. You wouldn't demand that your daughter stop playing with dolls and go out and wrestle in the grass instead. Why should we demand the reverse of boys? That's the point of "boys will be boys," and God help the boys cursed with parents who don't understand this point.

    3) The ad says that "some men" act the right way. Can you in your wildest and most fevered dreams even imagine the reaction to an ad that spoke about women in these terms? Imagine an ad for Dove body wash that shows women doing stereotypically negative things like gossiping and nagging and shopping too much, and then the narrator comes on: "Sure, some women act the right way." Feminists would be rioting in the street. They'd storm Dove headquarters and stone the head of marketing to death with loofahs dipped in cement.

    But no such ad would or could ever exist. Women are not lectured and scolded this way. This sort of treatment is reserved for men. And men are tired of it. We've heard it enough. We're terrible; we're horrible; we've ruined the world. Okay, we get it. Thank you. Now shut up and sell your 14-bladed razors and leave us alone.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/42190...-ad-matt-walsh
    Who gives a shit about a stupid ad you snowflake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Who gives a shit about a stupid ad you snowflake!
    The liberal media making it a story. Do you deny reality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    What I’m seeing here, pally boy, is the right shitting their collective diapers. There’s your drama, queenie.
    What I'm seeing is the liberal media running a story about obvious pandering to liberals by a dumbshit-led company. LOL are so easy to use. Just pretend you care about something and they'l believe you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    The liberal media making it a story. Do you deny reality?
    Who started this thread, Martha?

    I never saw a damn thing about it until the right started soiling themselves

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    Are broflakes still crying over this?

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