The Godless left showing their tolerance!

[PostmodernProphet]

All three Abrahamic religions are about patriarchy..

really?......is Christianity about patriarchy......

[PostmodernProphet]

The moneychangers were strictly capitalists.

I can think of some bankers who profited from the housing collapse who were modern "socialists".......

[kudzu]

And again God spoke of it!
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Apostasy

2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of [b]sin is revealed, the son of perdition

Has it occurred to you that so many of the things you people come up with is covered by the Bible!

3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers(Homosexuals), false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,(Turds on here)

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins(AOC), led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Thessalonians was one of Paul's first letters.. and he died BEFORE the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD.

Paul died in 67 AD.. BEFORE John of Patmost wrote Revelation.

[kudzu]

I can think of some bankers who profited from the housing collapse who were modern "socialists".......

Then you don't know the definition of socialists and socialism.

[CharacterAssassin]

So wrong on every count! But you know that don't you?

No, Tinkerbell, absolutely spot on on every point, and it's fun to watch you run from them.

Why to you hate Christ and the bible?

[PostmodernProphet]

Then you don't know the definition of socialists and socialism.

lol......says the folks who think Jesus was a socialist.......clue: it does not mean "a nice guy"......

[PoliTalker]

Hello Frank,

What do you mean when you say your are an atheist, Poli?

After all that I said in that post, THAT is your only comment?

That word should speak for itself, Frank. I do not believe there is a creator/overseer being.

Do you now think I am 'the devil?'

[Frank Apisa]

Educated Jews know it wasn't always matrilineal.

In the time of Ezra when the Jews return to Israel those who had remained behind had forgotten Jewish law and married non-Jewish women. When Ezra returns, he commands them to put aside their non-Jewish wives and their children. if the children from those women were Jewish, they would have had a responsibility to educate them as Jews, since the children were not Jewish, there was no obligation to educate them to be Jews. The men obey Ezra and put aside their non-Jewish wives and children (Book of Ezra Chapter 10)

Give it the fuck up, Kudzu.

We are not talking about 3000 fucking years ago...or about the ravings of a mythology.

RIGHT NOW...any child of a Jewish woman...is JEW. That is an essential in the Jewish definition of who is a JEsw.

Jesus H. Christ.

Give it up when you have lost.

[Frank Apisa]

Actually, it’s a bit confusing, according to the Torah, the lineage in ancient times is traced through the father. The determination one is a Jew is traced through the mother. Clear as mud, right.

[FONT="]And on the first day of the second month, they assembled the whole congregation together, who registered themselves by families, by their fathers’ houses, according to the number of names from twenty years old and upward, head by head.[/FONT]

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Deuteronomy 7:3-4 New International Version (NIV)

[FONT="]3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4 for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you.

The Mother is entrusted with the job of raising the child as a Jew.

This was not a problem when Jews did not marry non Jews. A man usually chose a bride from his tribe. When the Jews started to marry non Jews is when the issue became confusing. It is still a controversial issue in some sects.




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Google "Who is a Jew" or "How is it determined that one is a Jew"...

...and the first item will be, "A child of a Jewish woman."

Do it.

[Phantasmal]

Google "Who is a Jew" or "How is it determined that one is a Jew"...

...and the first item will be, "A child of a Jewish woman."

Do it.

I’ve studied with Jews, I don’t have to Google it. It is as I explained a problem the Jews are still grappling with.

[kudzu]

Give it the fuck up, Kudzu.

We are not talking about 3000 fucking years ago...or about the ravings of a mythology.

RIGHT NOW...any child of a Jewish woman...is JEW. That is an essential in the Jewish definition of who is a JEsw.

Jesus H. Christ.

Give it up when you have lost.

That's the way it is now, but consider Bathsheba, mother of Solomon. Her father was a Gilonite (Canaanite) yet Solomon was a Jew.

If you don't care what scripture says, just say so or don't involve yourself in a discussion.

[Frank Apisa]

Hello Frank,



After all that I said in that post, THAT is your only comment?

That word should speak for itself, Frank. I do not believe there is a creator/overseer being.

Do you now think I am 'the devil?'

No, I do not think you are the devil.

The descriptor "atheist" means so many things to so many different people...I just want to know what YOU meant when you used it as a descriptor.

The word most assuredly does not speak for itself, Poli.

I DO NOT "BELIEVE" (which is to say, blindly guess) THAT THERE IS A GOD.

I am not an atheist.

I ALSO DO NOT "BELIEVE" (blindly guess) there are no gods.

I also am not a theist.

Some people who use the descriptor "atheist"...in fact ASSERT THAT THERE ARE NO GODS.

So the word does not speak for itself.

[Frank Apisa]

I’ve studied with Jews, I don’t have to Google it. It is as I explained a problem the Jews are still grappling with.

I know LOTS of Jews...and I have never encountered a one who is grappling with the question of "Who is a Jew?"

EVERY ONE OF THEM SAYS, "The child of a Jewish woman is a Jew."

[Frank Apisa]

That's the way it is now, but consider Bathsheba, mother of Solomon. Her father was a Gilonite (Canaanite) yet Solomon was a Jew.

If you don't care what scripture says, just say so or don't involve yourself in a discussion.

Fuck you.

I will involve myself in any discussion I choose to involve myself in.

My statement as I made it initially is absolutely correct.

Obviously you do not know how to acknowledge someone else being correct.

Okay. I hope you eventually deal with that problem.

[Phantasmal]

Who is a Jew?

Although the Hebrew Bible defines Jewish identity in patrilineal terms (determined by the identity of the father) the Mishnah states that the offspring of a Jewish mother and a non-Jewish father is recognized as a Jew, while the offspring of a non-Jewish mother and a Jewish father is considered a non-Jew. This talmudic position became normative in Jewish law.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.myj...l-descent/amp/

The majority view in Karaite Judaism is that Jewish identity can only be transmitted by patrilineal descent They argue that only patrilineal descent can transmit Jewish identity on the grounds that all descent in the Torah went according to the male line. Jewish Tradition Wikipedia

Historically, since the Rabbinic period (post 70 CE), Jewish status was passed down by the mother. This is known as matrilineality. A child of a Jewish mother is Jewish, even if the father is not. Prior to this period, the Bible recognized patrilineal descent, whereby one’s Jewish status was determined by one’s father.

In 1983, the organized Reform Jewish Movement adopted the principal of patrilineal descent. This is a bit of a misnomer. Reform Judaism considers a child of an interfaith couple to be Jewish if one parent is Jewish and the child is raised as a Jew and receives a Jewish education and celebrates appropriate life cycle events, such as receiving a Hebrew name and becoming bar or bat mitzvah. This also assumes that the child is being raised exclusively as a Jew and not practicing another religion.
https://reformjudaism.org/ask-rabbi-...lineal-descent