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    Default Contracts Supersede Marriage

    This has to be a publicity stunt:

    Gwyneth Paltrow Brings Ex-Husband Chris Martin on Honeymoon with Her New Husband
    by Warner Todd Houston
    11 Jan 2019

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...r-new-husband/

    Paltrow’s story reminds me of the need to overhaul the archaic institution of marriage itself.

    1. Do away with the legality attached to organized religion ceremonies. Couples could still marry in a church if they choose, but marriages performed by priest, cult leaders, and so on, would carry no weight in law. If ever the doctrine of the Separation of Church and State means anything it must include separating organized religion marriages from the state.

    2. Every couple should cohabit by a legal contract. That would include contracts that cover hide the baloney.

    cohabit (verb, intransitive)
    cohabited, cohabiting, cohabits

    1. To live together as spouses.

    2. To live together in a sexual relationship when not legally married.

    3. Clauses in a cohabit contract would cover everything from who gets what —— including the children and the family pet.

    4. Either party could simply cancel the contract by notifying the state in writing instead of filing for a divorce. There are so many organized religion marriages they have become nothing more than contracts if you look at how judges rule on the details in messy divorces.

    5. If it ain’t in the contract it does not exist for either party.

    6. Lawyers would perform legal ceremonies instead of priests and justices of the peace doing the honors.

    7. If only one partner has an income, the money paid to Social Security is split equally between both partners so that only one person should be entitled to Social Security benefits. In other words only one individual and minor children can collect from the government. When that person whose name is on the account dies SS dies with them, or dies the minute a minor child becomes 18 years old.

    Incidentally, Social Security was initiated because banks, and bankers, could not be trusted.

    SS should have been a pension plan. FDR Socialists were very careful to make SS a required insurance policy rather than make it a voluntary pension plan administered by the government. Had they done it that way American workers would have the choice of paying into a government-administered pension plan, or buying a private sector pension plan gambling on getting a higher payout.

    NOTE:
    City, state, and federal employees were allowed to opt of SS. Private sector workers do not have that option. That will never change now that immigrants who never paid a penny into SS collect benefits from Americans who were forced to pay.

    It will not take long for a standard contract form to become available.

    Only one form containing a few words canceling a contract is all that is required. “I’m outta here.” signed and filed by the unhappy partner will suffice.

    The U.S. Constitution and contracts are supposed to be inviolate in this country, while the union of one man and one woman that has been in effect for centuries is not worth the vows the happy couple take. Hopefully, a man and a woman cohabiting by contract will stay together longer than Democrats stayed with the Constitution.

    contract (noun)
    Abbr. contr., cont.

    1. a. An agreement between two or more parties, especially one that is written and enforceable by law. b. The writing or document containing such an agreement.

    2. The branch of law dealing with formal agreements between parties.

    3. Marriage as a formal agreement; betrothal.

    4. Games. a. The last and highest bid of one hand in bridge. b. The number of tricks thus bid. c. Contract bridge.

    5. A paid assignment to murder someone: put out a contract on the mobster's life.

    verb
    contracted, contracting, contracts (verb, transitive)

    1. To enter into by contract; establish or settle by formal agreement: contract a marriage.

    2. To acquire or incur: contract obligations; contract a serious illness.

    3. a. To reduce in size by drawing together; shrink. b. To pull together; wrinkle.

    4. Grammar. To shorten (a word or words) by omitting or combining some of the letters or sounds.

    verb, intransitive

    1. To enter into or make an agreement: contract for garbage collection.

    2. To become reduced in size by or as if by being drawn together: The pupils of the patient's eyes contracted.

    Finally, I assume a parent, or a legal guardian. can sign a contract for a minor. Sad to say this former child bride got the shaft from everybody who was supposed to look out for her. I assume her sorry ass husband is still here:



    FILE – In this Feb. 2, 2016, file photo, Naila Amin, 26, holds a book from one of the classes she was taking at Nassau Community College in Garden City, N.Y. According to data provided to The Associated Press, the U.S. approved thousands of requests by men to bring child and teenage brides from another country. “My passport ruined my life,” said Naila Amin, a dual citizen from Pakistan who grew up in New York City. She was forcibly married at 13 in Pakistan and applied for papers for her 26-year-old husband to come to the country. “People die to come to America. I was a passport to him. They all wanted him here, and that was the way to do it.” (AP Photo/Kathy Kmonicek)



    Requests to bring in child brides OK’d; legal under US laws
    By Associated Press |
    PUBLISHED: January 11, 2019 at 9:39 pm | UPDATED: January 11, 2019 at 9:42 pm
    By COLLEEN LONG

    https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01...ride-requests/

    On the plus side child brides (and child grooms) can cancel the contract on the day they had enough.
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    This has to be a publicity stunt:

    Gwyneth Paltrow Brings Ex-Husband Chris Martin on Honeymoon with Her New Husband
    by Warner Todd Houston
    11 Jan 2019

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...r-new-husband/

    Paltrow’s story reminds me of the need to overhaul the archaic institution of marriage itself.

    1. Do away with the legality attached to organized religion ceremonies. Couples could still marry in a church if they choose, but marriages performed by priest, cult leaders, and so on, would carry no weight in law. If ever the doctrine of the Separation of Church and State means anything it must include separating organized religion marriages from the state.

    2. Every couple should cohabit by a legal contract. That would include contracts that cover hide the baloney.

    cohabit (verb, intransitive)
    cohabited, cohabiting, cohabits

    1. To live together as spouses.

    2. To live together in a sexual relationship when not legally married.

    3. Clauses in a cohabit contract would cover everything from who gets what —— including the children and the family pet.

    4. Either party could simply cancel the contract by notifying the state in writing instead of filing for a divorce. There are so many organized religion marriages they have become nothing more than contracts if you look at how judges rule on the details in messy divorces.

    5. If it ain’t in the contract it does not exist for either party.

    6. Lawyers would perform legal ceremonies instead of priests and justices of the peace doing the honors.

    7. If only one partner has an income, the money paid to Social Security is split equally between both partners so that only one person should be entitled to Social Security benefits. In other words only one individual and minor children can collect from the government. When that person whose name is on the account dies SS dies with them, or dies the minute a minor child becomes 18 years old.

    Incidentally, Social Security was initiated because banks, and bankers, could not be trusted.

    SS should have been a pension plan. FDR Socialists were very careful to make SS a required insurance policy rather than make it a voluntary pension plan administered by the government. Had they done it that way American workers would have the choice of paying into a government-administered pension plan, or buying a private sector pension plan gambling on getting a higher payout.

    NOTE:
    City, state, and federal employees were allowed to opt of SS. Private sector workers do not have that option. That will never change now that immigrants who never paid a penny into SS collect benefits from Americans who were forced to pay.

    It will not take long for a standard contract form to become available.

    Only one form containing a few words canceling a contract is all that is required. “I’m outta here.” signed and filed by the unhappy partner will suffice.

    The U.S. Constitution and contracts are supposed to be inviolate in this country, while the union of one man and one woman that has been in effect for centuries is not worth the vows the happy couple take. Hopefully, a man and a woman cohabiting by contract will stay together longer than Democrats stayed with the Constitution.

    contract (noun)
    Abbr. contr., cont.

    1. a. An agreement between two or more parties, especially one that is written and enforceable by law. b. The writing or document containing such an agreement.

    2. The branch of law dealing with formal agreements between parties.

    3. Marriage as a formal agreement; betrothal.

    4. Games. a. The last and highest bid of one hand in bridge. b. The number of tricks thus bid. c. Contract bridge.

    5. A paid assignment to murder someone: put out a contract on the mobster's life.

    verb
    contracted, contracting, contracts (verb, transitive)

    1. To enter into by contract; establish or settle by formal agreement: contract a marriage.

    2. To acquire or incur: contract obligations; contract a serious illness.

    3. a. To reduce in size by drawing together; shrink. b. To pull together; wrinkle.

    4. Grammar. To shorten (a word or words) by omitting or combining some of the letters or sounds.

    verb, intransitive

    1. To enter into or make an agreement: contract for garbage collection.

    2. To become reduced in size by or as if by being drawn together: The pupils of the patient's eyes contracted.

    Finally, I assume a parent, or a legal guardian. can sign a contract for a minor. Sad to say this former child bride got the shaft from everybody who was supposed to look out for her. I assume her sorry ass husband is still here:



    FILE – In this Feb. 2, 2016, file photo, Naila Amin, 26, holds a book from one of the classes she was taking at Nassau Community College in Garden City, N.Y. According to data provided to The Associated Press, the U.S. approved thousands of requests by men to bring child and teenage brides from another country. “My passport ruined my life,” said Naila Amin, a dual citizen from Pakistan who grew up in New York City. She was forcibly married at 13 in Pakistan and applied for papers for her 26-year-old husband to come to the country. “People die to come to America. I was a passport to him. They all wanted him here, and that was the way to do it.” (AP Photo/Kathy Kmonicek)



    Requests to bring in child brides OK’d; legal under US laws
    By Associated Press |
    PUBLISHED: January 11, 2019 at 9:39 pm | UPDATED: January 11, 2019 at 9:42 pm
    By COLLEEN LONG

    https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01...ride-requests/

    On the plus side child brides (and child grooms) can cancel the contract on the day they had enough.
    This is stupid.. ALL marriage is a contract.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    This is stupid.. ALL marriage is a contract.
    To kudzu: Idiot! Read it as many times as it takes for you to grasp my premise.
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    To kudzu: Idiot! Read it as many times as it takes for you to grasp my premise.
    All marriage is a contract.. Start with the basics or legal theory and domestic law. you can't unilaterally renege on a contract after the fact.
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    So she brings her ex-hubby on her honeymoon to baby sit the kids while she gets her freak on, and this was your take away from that blurb f celebrity gossip?

    The government should get out of the business of marriage period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    So she brings her ex-hubby on her honeymoon to baby sit the kids while she gets her freak on, and this was your take away from that blurb f celebrity gossip?

    The government should get out of the business of marriage period.
    So ? Who care what Paltrow does or why?

    Government has NEVER been party to any marriage... and children (minors) cannot enter into a contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    So ? Who care what Paltrow does or why?

    Government has NEVER been party to any marriage... and children (minors) cannot enter into a contract.
    Since the government determines what is or isn't marriage, who can enter into one, and what the rights of the parties are regardless of contracts, it is very much a party in any marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Since the government determines what is or isn't marriage, who can enter into one, and what the rights of the parties are regardless of contracts, it is very much a party in any marriage.
    Not in law.. The contract is between 2 parties and the government is NOT party to the marriage. Ask ANY lawyer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    So she brings her ex-hubby on her honeymoon to baby sit the kids while she gets her freak on, and this was your take away from that blurb f celebrity gossip?

    The government should get out of the business of marriage period.
    Odd, how the right never bitched about government in marriage until gay marriage was an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    All marriage is a contract..
    To kudzu: They are not. If they were they would be litigated as breaches of contract rather than fought in divorce courts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    There are so many organized religion marriages they have become nothing more than contracts if you look at how judges rule on the details in messy divorces.
    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Start with the basics or legal theory and domestic law.
    To kudzu: If in the future I call you brilliant will you stop using my threads to sound intelligent?

    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    you can't unilaterally renege on a contract after the fact.
    To kudzu: Halfwit. They do it all of the time because generally there is no criminal punish attached:

    https://readingroom.law.gsu.edu/cgi/...&context=gsulr

    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Can we vote Flanders off the island?
    To Rune: What a clever little sneak you are! The question is your way of denying freedom of speech without ordering me not to say things you do not want anyone to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    To kudzu: They are not. If they were they would be litigated as breaches of contract rather than fought in divorce courts.





    To kudzu: If in the future I call you brilliant will you stop using my threads to sound intelligent?



    To kudzu: Halfwit. They do it all of the time because generally there is no criminal punish attached:

    https://readingroom.law.gsu.edu/cgi/...&context=gsulr



    To Rune: What a clever little sneak you are! The question is your way of denying freedom of speech without ordering me not to say things you do not want anyone to read.

    They are litigated as breach of contract, stupid.. and there are five issues that must be addressed to include support, visitation and custody of minors, division of property, conduct of the parties. The State is NOT party to any marriage and does not care what sort of marriage you have.. They just don't want to raise your offspring.

    Ask a lawyer..
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    This is stupid.. ALL marriage is a contract.
    Exactly. Was going to say the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    They are litigated as breach of contract, stupid.. and there are five issues that must be addressed to include support, visitation and custody of minors, division of property, conduct of the parties. The State is NOT party to any marriage and does not care what sort of marriage you have.. They just don't want to raise your offspring.

    Ask a lawyer..
    Actually, the State does care what kind of marriage you have. Can't marry a horse or your cousin.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Since the government determines what is or isn't marriage, who can enter into one, and what the rights of the parties are regardless of contracts, it is very much a party in any marriage.
    Wrong. You don't understand the meaning of "party".

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