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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    A 2,000 mile long, "beautiful" concrete Berlin Wall is the way simple-minded people think about border integrity.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...73#post2812673
    And the stupidity shines through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    I can appreciate the request for the "no politics". Because politics is not going to ever produce an immigration policy that actually works for most Americans.

    The most qualified people to discuss what is really needed are the Border Patrol agents out on the front line that are already dealing with the problem in their daily work. They know what would make their job easier.

    And then you have ICE, who has their own unique problems of tracking down people who have out-stayed their VISA's. Fences or walls have nothing to do with their problem. And that happens to be the largest problem in just number of targets alone.

    There is already a fence or wall that stretches over 750 miles of border that covers all the portals and for miles across all of the populous areas on the border.

    And that is needed and is serving it's purpose well. But where it's not fenced, are vast desert areas where the terrain is hard to fence, or where the land is privately owned and the ranchers do not want a structure that prevents the grazing of their herds, or there are steep canyon walls or dry creek beds or rock escarpments that are hard to fence. You have everything out there.

    If you ask the Border Patrol agents, they say these areas should be fenced- if not for humanitarian reasons only, because crossing those areas on foot is a suicide mission, and there is no natural water available in the desert, and everything out there will either sting you, stick you, or bite you! Along with extreme cold and hot temperatures that will also kill you. The Border Patrol is tired of finding these people dead in the desert who try it.

    But if all of these thoughts are not part of the discussion, and people think that a simple fence or wall is going to resolve all of this, then this discussion is over.

    And after 20 billion dollars spent on a wall, we will realize we just wasted a lot of money, and it didn't resolve any of the real problems.

    I think the project to finish the barrier should be put on hold until some experts can study it further, and get a dollar figure established so that it can then be appropriated appropriately by Congress- and not some dollar figure or need for it Donald Trump pulled out his ass!
    Reasonable response thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Reasonable response thanks.
    It is a reasonable response, but first you have to cut thru Trump's lies and tantrums.

    There is already a fence or wall that stretches over 750 miles of border that covers all the portals and for miles across all of the populous areas on the border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    I was correct when I said you could only handle one idea at a time. I did propose an alternative but you're too drunk or drug addled to follow it
    There you go fuck face shooting off your mouth before you have all the info! I agreed with most of your points but like the POS you are you couldn't wait to jump. Then Fuck You.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Six states account for 58% of unauthorized immigrants: California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey and Illinois. But individual states have experienced different trends.

    From 2007 to 2016, the unauthorized immigrant population decreased in a dozen states: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York and Oregon. In three states, the unauthorized immigrant population rose over the same period: Louisiana, Maryland and Massachusetts.
    Because those six states .... Offer more freebies .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    There you go fuck face shooting off your mouth before you have all the info! I agreed with most of your points but like the POS you are you couldn't wait to jump. Then Fuck You.

    This is where the problem comes in. you trumpsters are more about mental illness than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    It is a reasonable response, but first you have to cut thru Trump's lies and tantrums.

    There is already a fence or wall that stretches over 750 miles of border that covers all the portals and for miles across all of the populous areas on the border.
    Oh fuck you and your anti Trump BS. People like you are the problem not the solution!

    PS I don't like Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Good point I agree


    Makes sense.


    Yes enforce the laws against hiring illegals.


    I agree



    Good valid points to start with Thanks.

    You're welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    There you go fuck face shooting off your mouth before you have all the info! I agreed with most of your points but like the POS you are you couldn't wait to jump. Then Fuck You.

    I have no way of guessing when you're going to post and when you aren't

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    1700 Holes have been cut in the San Diego portion of the border wall in the last 5 years by smugglers. You use data like that to strengthen the wall.

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    most undocumented overstay their visitors visas , and employers hire the undocumented for cheap labor


    So how about controlling visas better and jailing employers who hire them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    A 2,000 mile long, "beautiful" concrete Berlin Wall is the way simple-minded people think about border integrity.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...73#post2812673
    1st century solutions to 21 century problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    It is a reasonable response, but first you have to cut thru Trump's lies and tantrums.

    There is already a fence or wall that stretches over 750 miles of border that covers all the portals and for miles across all of the populous areas on the border.
    Have you done a census on where people live? Perhaps you could share the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    most undocumented overstay their visitors visas , and employers hire the undocumented for cheap labor


    So how about controlling visas better and jailing employers who hire them
    Yet nothing for those that are illegally here and know they're breaking the law? Hopefully, one will Kate Steinle your family member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loving91390 View Post
    Because those six states .... Offer more freebies .
    The U.S. civilian workforce includes 7.8 million unauthorized immigrants, representing a decline since 2007.

    Between 2007 and 2016, the number of unauthorized immigrant workers fell, as did their share of the total U.S. workforce over the same period. This group accounted for 4.8% of those in the U.S. who were working or were unemployed and looking for work. The number of unauthorized immigrant men in the prime working ages of 18 to 44 also declined, but not women.

    Compared with their 4.8% share of the civilian workforce overall in 2016, unauthorized immigrants are over represented as a share of the workforce in farming occupations (24%) and construction occupations (15%).

    In all industries and occupations, though, they are outnumbered by U.S.-born workers.
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