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    Default Donald Federovich Trump - GOP rank and file now Soviet apologists

    On Friday, the New York Times broke the news that the FBI investigation of Trump wasn’t just checking how many times his campaign touched based with the Kremlin (that would be, over 100 times). Nope. The FBI was checking out whether Donald Trump was a genuine, honest to Stalin, asset working for the Russian state against the interests of the United States. It’s a story so big, that even the FBI agents investigating the idea were freaked out by it. And it was really this aspect of the investigation that made Rod Rosenstein throw up his hands and pass the whole hot mess to Robert Mueller.

    So … yeah. At the end of a week when we learned that Donald Trump’s campaign manager traveled to Europe, met secretly with a Russian operative, negotiated over the fate of US ally, and handed over inside polling data from the Trump campaign because for some reason that stuff had a high value to the Russian government, that turned out to not be the big news.

    On Saturday, the Washington Post chimed in to report that, sure enough, the investigation into Trump includes “a counterintelligence component to determine if the president was seeking to help Russia.” Eye-popping as all this may seem, this whole thing was kind of implicit from the beginning. After all, as the Associated Press might say, it takes two to conspire. If Russia was pitching in to help Donald Trump—and there’s zero doubt they were—then … why? Sure, Trump’s an incompetent ass, and having him in a position of power is a win for Russia all by itself, but how much of Trump’s incompetence, his divisiveness, his racism and xenophobic, how much of his attacks on American allies and the rule of law is the result of simply being an idiot, and how much of it is following orders?

    What does Vladimir Putin want from Donald Trump, and what has Trump promised to do? That’s a question that not even the top officials in Trump’s own White House can answer, because as the Washington Post also points out, Trump has hidden the contents of his talks with Putin from his own staff. That includes going to extraordinary steps like taking notes away from his own interpreter and “instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials.” That’s when Trump didn’t meet with Putin without even a US interpreter present. Which happened. Remember, Donald Trump can still be an incompetent ass, and also be an active Russian asset. The two things are not necessarily incompatible.

    In the old days, the Soviets used to promise turncoats in the West that there was an Order of Lenin waiting for them when they were eventually forced to defect. Sometimes they would even be shown pictures of “their” medal. Is there an “Order of Putin” now? Did Trump got to see his on that weekend visit to Moscow? After months of wondering if we’d ever get to see the pee tape, it’s probably going to turn out that what Trump did with prostitutes was the least embarrassing part of that trip.

    ~ Mark Sumner

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    The sad thing is that so many Americans have been manipulated by a man as stupid as Trump.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The sad thing is that so many Americans have been manipulated by a man as stupid as Trump.
    It's a National Embarrassment but that tag is WAY too tame a phrase.......pure collusion in broad daylight

    our 'independent media' is the real culprit here - imagine how the press would have reacted if this had been a Democrat working for Putin.....heads would have exploded, Fox would be running this story every minute of every day. these fucks act like Trump was busted for jay walking

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    On Friday, the New York Times broke the news that the FBI investigation of Trump wasn’t just checking how many times his campaign touched based with the Kremlin (that would be, over 100 times). Nope. The FBI was checking out whether Donald Trump was a genuine, honest to Stalin, asset working for the Russian state against the interests of the United States. It’s a story so big, that even the FBI agents investigating the idea were freaked out by it. And it was really this aspect of the investigation that made Rod Rosenstein throw up his hands and pass the whole hot mess to Robert Mueller.

    So … yeah. At the end of a week when we learned that Donald Trump’s campaign manager traveled to Europe, met secretly with a Russian operative, negotiated over the fate of US ally, and handed over inside polling data from the Trump campaign because for some reason that stuff had a high value to the Russian government, that turned out to not be the big news.

    On Saturday, the Washington Post chimed in to report that, sure enough, the investigation into Trump includes “a counterintelligence component to determine if the president was seeking to help Russia.” Eye-popping as all this may seem, this whole thing was kind of implicit from the beginning. After all, as the Associated Press might say, it takes two to conspire. If Russia was pitching in to help Donald Trump—and there’s zero doubt they were—then … why? Sure, Trump’s an incompetent ass, and having him in a position of power is a win for Russia all by itself, but how much of Trump’s incompetence, his divisiveness, his racism and xenophobic, how much of his attacks on American allies and the rule of law is the result of simply being an idiot, and how much of it is following orders?

    What does Vladimir Putin want from Donald Trump, and what has Trump promised to do? That’s a question that not even the top officials in Trump’s own White House can answer, because as the Washington Post also points out, Trump has hidden the contents of his talks with Putin from his own staff. That includes going to extraordinary steps like taking notes away from his own interpreter and “instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials.” That’s when Trump didn’t meet with Putin without even a US interpreter present. Which happened. Remember, Donald Trump can still be an incompetent ass, and also be an active Russian asset. The two things are not necessarily incompatible.

    In the old days, the Soviets used to promise turncoats in the West that there was an Order of Lenin waiting for them when they were eventually forced to defect. Sometimes they would even be shown pictures of “their” medal. Is there an “Order of Putin” now? Did Trump got to see his on that weekend visit to Moscow? After months of wondering if we’d ever get to see the pee tape, it’s probably going to turn out that what Trump did with prostitutes was the least embarrassing part of that trip.

    ~ Mark Sumner
    I'm watching the SUN morning wrapups. REP s are throwing shade and coaching and dismissing that their TREASONOUS party head!

    It's disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The sad thing is that so many Americans have been manipulated by a man as stupid as Trump.
    with the help of Fox who repeated the Russians fake news assault


    Hmmmm


    Murdock got bought out by the russians too


    The whole republican world is about to crash

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    treason isn't a thing, because nations aren't a thing. its all artifice.

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    Toadstool is far too stupid and far too unmanageable to be a secret agent for Putin. However, it's quite clear that 1) he was selected as POTUS in part because of Russian interference, and 2) he's in thrall to Putin for some reason. Putin is a master player; he knew years ago that a creature like Trump, with his blatant racism and one-dimensional thinking, would be the perfect stooge to put in the WH. He has done a bang-up job keeping us divided and at each other's throats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    FOX
    Nah.. You really can't blame Fox.. At some point Americans have to take responsibility for allowing themselves to be deceived and manipulated by an idiot like Trump.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    yes. stupid real estate, and tv billionaire.

    what business are the clintons in? oh. corruption, you say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Nah.. You really can't blame Fox.. At some point Americans have to take responsibility for allowing themselves to be deceived and manipulated by an idiot like Trump.
    Yes we can blame the LIARS who have fooled the small brained


    and we in fact can KILL Fox

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Nah.. You really can't blame Fox.. At some point Americans have to take responsibility for allowing themselves to be deceived and manipulated by an idiot like Trump.
    we want his non globalist policies, shitdick.

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    over inside polling data from the Trump campaign because for some reason that stuff had a high value to the Russian government, that turned out to not be the big news.
    it turned out to be FAKE NEWS.
    The polling data went to Ukraine

    New York Times corrects report on which oligarchs Paul Manafort wanted to give polling data
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...e-polling-data
    “A previous version of this article misidentified the people to whom Paul Manafort wanted a Russian associate to send polling data,” the Times said in its correction Wednesday. “Mr. Manafort wanted the data sent to two Ukrainian oligarchs, Serhiy Lyovochkin and Rinat Akhmetov, not Oleg V. Deripaska, a Russian oligarch close to the Kremlin.”

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