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    Default Trump has a serious democrat contender, finally

    Not Biden, not Elizabeth Warren lol, or the Lilly White Male/Irish wannabe Hispanic Beto.

    Tulsi Gabbard announced she’s running in 2020. There are things even I like about Gabbard; namely, she wants out of stupid wars. I see her as a legitimate threat to Trump.

    What could get interesting is Gabbard would upset the Forever War apple cart so she may have issues with the Democrat side of the political establishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Not Biden, not Elizabeth Warren lol, or the Lilly White Male/Irish wannabe Hispanic Beto.

    Tulsi Gabbard announced she’s running in 2020. There are things even I like about Gabbard; namely, she wants out of stupid wars. I see her as a legitimate threat to Trump.

    What could get interesting is Gabbard would upset the Forever War apple cart so she may have issues with the Democrat side of the political establishment.
    she's a whack job socialist - but wants us OUT OF SYRIA NOW -good for her

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    she's a whack job socialist - but wants us OUT OF SYRIA NOW -good for her
    But she’s an articulate minority woman lol.

    Gabbard will get a lot of democrat votes just based on that. But yeah, she’s hard-left lefty, for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    But she’s an articulate minority woman lol.

    Gabbard will get a lot of democrat votes just based on that. But yeah, she’s hard-left lefty, for sure.
    According to Joe Biden, "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man." when it came to Obama. Everyone saw how using those things as "qualifications" worked out.

    Just to be clear, are you saying Democrats use gender and race to determine their best candidates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    According to Joe Biden, "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man." when it came to Obama. Everyone saw how using those things as "qualifications" worked out.

    Just to be clear, are you saying Democrats use gender and race to determine their best candidates?
    We are in a post-MLK era where political candidates are judged on their race and gender.

    So, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    We are in a post-MLK era where political candidates are judged on their race and gender.

    So, yes.
    I thought MLK wanted people judged by the content of their character?

    For the record, I don't have a problem with a female or any minority being in office. However, unlike Democrats, I won't vote for one BECAUSE of either characteristic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Not Biden, not Elizabeth Warren lol, or the Lilly White Male/Irish wannabe Hispanic Beto.

    Tulsi Gabbard announced she’s running in 2020. There are things even I like about Gabbard; namely, she wants out of stupid wars. I see her as a legitimate threat to Trump.

    What could get interesting is Gabbard would upset the Forever War apple cart so she may have issues with the Democrat side of the political establishment.
    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    she's a whack job socialist - but wants us OUT OF SYRIA NOW -good for her
    From my perspective she has more positives than any other dem running, which includes those that haven't declared but obviously are.

    1. She's not from California
    2. She endorsed Bernie. That doesn't necessarily mean she's as socialist as he, but more importantly she did not endorse hrc
    3. As you indicated she is not a neo con/lib , as Trump is not.
    4. Probably has likeability, not the in your face, angry, fuck you, chip on the shoulder type like Kamala.
    5. She's not a complete dingbat like Occasional-Cortex. I've seen Tulsi speak on TV when in Hawaii.
    6. She's a Hindu.
    7. She's a surfer.
    8. Hawaii has a great health care system. Maybe she could bring those ideas to the table.

    As far as being a threat to Trump:
    She's good looking and has a great body. He can't insult her in that regard.
    In fact, insulting her could well backfire. hrc and the boys were fair game.

    If she does not suck up to hrc looking for an endorsement she goes way, way up in my estimation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    From my perspective she has more positives than any other dem running, which includes those that haven't declared but obviously are.

    1. She's not from California
    2. She endorsed Bernie. That doesn't necessarily mean she's as socialist as he, but more importantly she did not endorse hrc
    3. As you indicated she is not a neo con/lib , like Trump.
    4. Probably has likeability, not the in your face, fuck you type like Kamala.
    5. She's not a complete dingbat like Occasional-Cortex. I've seen Tulsi speak on TV when in Hawaii.
    6. She's a Hindu.
    7. She's a surfer.
    8. Hawaii has a great health care system. Maybe she could bring those ideas to the table.

    As far as being a threat to Trump:
    She's good looking and has a great body. He can't insult her in that regard.
    In fact, insulting her could well backfire. hrc and the boys were fair game.

    If she does not suck up to hrc looking for an endorsement she goes way, way up in my estimation.
    yep..good points . she's the best we are gonna get from the Dems.
    at least she is not just another neocon/lib

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    yep..good points . she's the best we are gonna get from the Dems.
    at least she is not just another neocon/lib
    Which means she doesn't have a prayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Which means she doesn't have a prayer.
    well we shouldn't rule out anyone at this stage...but ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    From my perspective she has more positives than any other dem running, which includes those that haven't declared but obviously are.

    1. She's not from California
    2. She endorsed Bernie. That doesn't necessarily mean she's as socialist as he, but more importantly she did not endorse hrc
    3. As you indicated she is not a neo con/lib , as Trump is not.
    4. Probably has likeability, not the in your face, angry, fuck you, chip on the shoulder type like Kamala.
    5. She's not a complete dingbat like Occasional-Cortex. I've seen Tulsi speak on TV when in Hawaii.
    6. She's a Hindu.
    7. She's a surfer.
    8. Hawaii has a great health care system. Maybe she could bring those ideas to the table.

    As far as being a threat to Trump:
    She's good looking and has a great body. He can't insult her in that regard.
    In fact, insulting her could well backfire. hrc and the boys were fair game.

    If she does not suck up to hrc looking for an endorsement she goes way, way up in my estimation.
    Good synopsis.

    Also, Gabbard isn’t afflicted with TDS and she’s not a Russia-phobe which makes her an outlier [if not an outright traitor lol] with today’s democrats. But she checks all the diversity boxes and she’s an excellent speaker, so she may actually make a good run at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Good synopsis.

    Also, Gabbard isn’t afflicted with TDS and she’s not a Russia-phobe which makes her an outlier [if not an outright traitor lol] with today’s democrats. But she checks all the diversity boxes and she’s an excellent speaker, so she may actually make a good run at it.
    She'd get a lot of crossover votes from those with Trump fatigue. But dims are too stupid as a group to recognize that and they'll nominate one of, if not the worst possible of the choices like last time.
    Gabbard has no chance to get nominated, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    She'd get a lot of crossover votes from those with Trump fatigue. But dims are too stupid as a group to recognize that and they'll nominate one of, if not the worst possible of the choices like last time.
    Gabbard has no chance to get nominated, IMO.
    I hope you’re right lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    she's a whack job socialist - but wants us OUT OF SYRIA NOW -good for her
    Anyone who's literally not throwing everyone who believes in democracy out of a helicopter is basically a Marxist-Leninist to you.
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