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    Well, I called it WRONG! I said the presidential historians had all weekend to weigh in once they digested and processed tonight's news. It didn't take that long! John Meecham, presidential historian was on MSNBC at 11:45PM, says he went looking and couldn't find ANYTHING equivalent to any President working for a 'foreign power'. IN FACT Meecham specifically stated the 'Founding Fathers' greatest fear was new Americans having allegiance to another 'state'. Many were afraid American leaders would bow to the British crown, others afraid (the Jeffersonians), would bow to France.

    What's worse is a not so off handed remark Meecham made. We're like the TITANIC headed towards an iceberg, we can't stop, and were sending out distress signals to the Carpathian, who isn't responding. I'm not quite sure who/what the Carpathian is in his metaphor. But I didn't like the sound it!
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    John Dean, WH counsel jailed - John Mitchell, ATTY GEN jailed, Howard Hunt & G. Gordon Liddy, WH staff, both jailed
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    This is HUCKABEE SANDERS RESPONSE! Doesn't sound like her, sounds like TRUMP standing over her shoulder dictating (spewing). "Known liar" "disgraced partisan hack."
    WHO do you think that sounds like?


    "This is absurd," Sanders said in a statement provided to POLITICO. "James Comey was fired because he’s a disgraced partisan hack, and his Deputy Andrew McCabe, who was in charge at the time, is a known liar fired by the FBI."
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    Agnew, VP (resigned, convicted of crimes in MD) - R. Haldeman and John Erlichman (top) WH staff, both jailed,
    John Dean, WH counsel jailed - John Mitchell, ATTY GEN jailed, Howard Hunt & G. Gordon Liddy, WH staff, both jailed
    Charles Colson, Special Counsel, jailed - James McCord, 1972 Campaign DIR, jailed
    69 government officials charged, 48 found guilty,
    15 jailed for varying amounts






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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    His article cites the steele dossier. They really are that DUMB!
    This is Comey's doing -not the Brennan hyped Steele dossier. But Ya. Steele is always the "go to"document.
    It's PURE REVENGE from that sanctimonious twerp -recall Comey was instrumental in the original FBI "counterintelligence"investigation.

    He tossed some notes about his firing being "obstructionism" in combination with the then virulent Russiaphobia
    being hyped by the news outlets with the aid of Rosenstein and set up Mueller on his way out.

    The reasons given -like campaign rhetoric of suspecting Trump is a foreign agent are ludicrous,
    but were enough to get Mueller going to wreck Trump's presidency.
    Which is the bottom motivational line for all this jazz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Tonight it is just better if you QUIT TYPING.
    Are the FACTS causing your head to hurt and you just want to make it stop??
    SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.


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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    This is Comey's doing -not the Brennan hyped Steele dossier. But Ya. Steele is always the "go to"document.
    It's PURE REVENGE from that sanctimonious twerp -recall Comey was instrumental in the original FBI "counterintelligence"investigation.

    He tossed some notes about his firing being "obstructionism" in combination with the then virulent Russiaphobia
    being hyped by the news outlets with the aid of Rosenstein and set up Mueller on his way out.

    The reasons given -like campaign rhetoric of suspecting Trump is a foreign agent are ludicrous,
    but were enough to get Mueller going to wreck Trump's presidency.
    Which is the bottom motivational line for all this jazz

    Yeah, a whole FBI apparatus was in on COMEY'S 'deep state' efforts to take down Trump. And that little southern bitch Asst. AG who went running to the WH to tell the admin. FLYNN was dirty. So the DOJ apparatus were 'deep staters too and 'colluded' with the FBI to take down Trump. And of course OBAMA was the absolute 'deep stater' who implored Trump not to hire FLYNN as he had 'problems'. (I don't remember the exact phrasing Obama told Trump).

    I know, I know, the FBI, DOJ and OBAMA all 'colluded' to bring down Trump. And then 'A/THE Dossier' was pulled off someones desk somewhere to give all of them cover.

    How about it fellow posters? Does that sound pretty logical to you?
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    WATERGATE - After Nixon's forced resignation, the many convictions/imprisoned

    Agnew, VP (resigned, convicted of crimes in MD) - R. Haldeman and John Erlichman (top) WH staff, both jailed,
    John Dean, WH counsel jailed - John Mitchell, ATTY GEN jailed, Howard Hunt & G. Gordon Liddy, WH staff, both jailed
    Charles Colson, Special Counsel, jailed - James McCord, 1972 Campaign DIR, jailed
    69 government officials charged, 48 found guilty,
    15 jailed for varying amounts






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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Yeah, a whole FBI apparatus was in on COMEY'S 'deep state' efforts to take down Trump. And that little southern bitch Asst. AG who went running to the WH to tell the admin. FLYNN was dirty. So the DOJ apparatus were 'deep staters too and 'colluded' with the FBI to take down Trump. And of course OBAMA was the absolute 'deep stater' who implored Trump not to hire FLYNN as he had 'problems'. (I don't remember the exact phrasing Obama told Trump).

    I know, I know, the FBI, DOJ and OBAMA all 'colluded' to bring down Trump.

    How about it fellow posters? How does that sound?
    We got the texts. we know the cabal. All FBI/DoJ leadership positions, all political appointees for the most part.
    I've never claimed Obama was behind any of this -although the un-masking at record rates suggest someone was abusing Susan Power names for requests. I think it was Brenna/Clapper -but that's another facet.

    But Obama has nothing to do with Brennan or Strzok or Comey. Their motivations were their own.
    Page's was as simple as Russiaphobia - Brennan's and Comey's much more personal and partisan.

    Nobody had to be at the top of all this. The players just all had common goals of killing Trump
    and used the tools available to their powers to set that in motion.
    The exception would be the meeting in Mccabes office with the expressed reason of exploring the insurance policy.

    But the Page/Strzok texts do show coordination of the players. The texts uses their names.

    If that isn't Deep State enough for you; it;s more then plenty for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    We got the texts. we know the cabal. All FBI/DoJ leadership positions, all political appointees for the most part.
    I've never claimed Obama was behind any of this -although the un-masking at record rates suggest someone was abusing Susan Power names for requests. I think it was Brenna/Clapper -but that's another facet.

    But Obama has nothing to do with Brennan or Strzok or Comey. Their motivations were their own.
    Page's was as simple as Russiaphobia - Brennan's and Comey's much more personal and partisan.

    Nobody had to be at the top of all this. The players just all had common goals of killing Trump
    and used the tools available to their powers to set that in motion.
    The exception would be the meeting in Mccabes office with the expressed reason of exploring the insurance policy.

    But the Pager/Strzok texts do show coordination of the players. The texts use their names.

    If that isn't Deep State enough for you;it;s more then plenty for me.
    OMG you are hanging TRUMP'S legal salvation on 2 FBI agents (a cabal?) fucking each other exchanging personal emails? Jesus, he's bigger trouble than even I thought.

    Regarding DEEP STATE, it's bullshit.
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    Agnew, VP (resigned, convicted of crimes in MD) - R. Haldeman and John Erlichman (top) WH staff, both jailed,
    John Dean, WH counsel jailed - John Mitchell, ATTY GEN jailed, Howard Hunt & G. Gordon Liddy, WH staff, both jailed
    Charles Colson, Special Counsel, jailed - James McCord, 1972 Campaign DIR, jailed
    69 government officials charged, 48 found guilty,
    15 jailed for varying amounts






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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    OMG you are hanging TRUMP'S legal salvation on 2 FBI agents (a cabal?) fucking each other exchanging personal emails? Jesus, he's bigger trouble than even I thought.

    Regarding DEEP STATE, it's bullshit.
    the texts show the players . They are NAMED or referred to.
    I'm not even getting into FISA coordination or activities like Yate's ludicrous use of the Logan Act
    to get Flynn investigated.

    The problem is you have to watch Hannity, or read John Soloman of the Hill or follow Sara Carter's investigative reporting
    and forget junk news like CNN's made up "crisis" or WAPO's fake news to get background

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    the texts show the players . They are NAMED or referred to.
    I'm not even getting into FISA coordination or activities like Yate's ludicrous use of the Logan Act
    to get Flynn investigated.

    The problem is you have to watch Hannity, or read John Soloman of the Hill or follow Sara Carter's investigative reporting
    and forget junk news like CNN's made up "crisis" or WAPO's fake news to get background
    HANNITY?

    Adios fool.
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    WATERGATE - After Nixon's forced resignation, the many convictions/imprisoned

    Agnew, VP (resigned, convicted of crimes in MD) - R. Haldeman and John Erlichman (top) WH staff, both jailed,
    John Dean, WH counsel jailed - John Mitchell, ATTY GEN jailed, Howard Hunt & G. Gordon Liddy, WH staff, both jailed
    Charles Colson, Special Counsel, jailed - James McCord, 1972 Campaign DIR, jailed
    69 government officials charged, 48 found guilty,
    15 jailed for varying amounts






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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    HANNITY?

    Adios fool.
    Like I said.
    The problem is that's where you get background discussions and nowhere else except a very few
    select investigative reporters (Solomon / Carter / Ishakof on occasion )

    So you watch junk news instead about "Russian connections" and think "Oh man this is the best."
    To this day there is absolutely no evidence of Russian collusion but a ton of info on the cabal's corrupt purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    the texts show the players . They are NAMED or referred to.
    I'm not even getting into FISA coordination or activities like Yate's ludicrous use of the Logan Act
    to get Flynn investigated.

    The problem is you have to watch Hannity, or read John Soloman of the Hill or follow Sara Carter's investigative reporting
    and forget junk news like CNN's made up "crisis" or WAPO's fake news to get background

    You need a lot of drugs a lot of alcohol and lot of stupidity to watch hannity

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    lets see the report then release everything.
    is on twitter @realtsuke

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    He's an ocean going twat, almost Deshian in his craziness.
    In rejecting their view [Spinoza, Leibnitz and Hegel], as I shall contend that we must, we are committing ourselves to the opinion that “truth” in empirical material has a meaning different from that which it bears in logic and mathematics.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    You need a lot of drugs a lot of alcohol and lot of stupidity to watch hannity
    You need drugs and alcohol? You must watch Hannity often, judging from your posts, They're filled with stupid
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I'm pretty sure our conservative friends here will label this 'Fake News'. (I'm just not sure which one will toss that out first?)
    This conservative is underwhelmed by this ‘revelation’.

    I’ll also toss out the fact Comey lied when he told Trump he wasn’t a subject in an investigation.
    “I would like you to do us a favor, I would like you to find out what happened with the whole situation with Ukraine, with CrowdStrike. The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation.”~verbatim, from Trump’s Perfect Call

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