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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Says the fellow that believes the world should be a borderless, socialist, perfect democracy where the majority mob rules over the minority fools.
    Your deep understanding of politics continuous to hold the world in awe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    I wouldn't call them stupid, rather the majority are played or unknowingly manipulated by Trump and an array of media demogogues framing thier point of view, telling them what they want to hear, easy answers to difficult questions

    A traditional conservative wouldn't be a Trump advocate, however, they would approve of a lot of the policies he has enacted, meaning until someone better comes along in the GOP they will coninue to support Trump
    Maybe they just like Trump because, Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
    More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
    Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election.
    Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
    Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
    New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
    Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
    African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
    Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
    Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
    , veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

    Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
    The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
    95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.

    Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
    As a result of tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

    Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
    Record number of regulations eliminated.
    Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

    Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
    more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.


    Expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

    Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
    United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

    Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
    Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

    Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
    Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
    Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

    Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
    Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

    Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
    C

    Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
    We have begun BUILDING THE WALL
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    If stupidity can be defined as being susceptible to a conman, they are. They were taken in by a guy who lies over and over and is still doing it. Trump was totally unqualified to be president and he proved it the last 2 years. But the suckers are still there, unmoved.
    "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" 'I never had sex with that woman."

    Let the record show that my very good friend Nordberg is highly fragile and becomes extremely unhinged and violent when politicians lie. Well, maybe just "SOME" politicians.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    That's why I have started threads requesting quotes of Trump calling Mexicans as a group "rapists, and why I have started threads requesting evidence that Trump is a racist. Still waiting for both.
    If you 'can't find' that quote, I can only assume that you've been in a coma for the last two years.

    I do not use faith in politics. I need to see it in writing or see some actual evidence
    You can't 'see' anything, until you open your eyes.
    I have only researched Donald Trump, he is the only one who I see as relevant to the current political landscape.
    Can you be more specific with respect to what you are 'researching'?

    As far as my sig goes, here is the deal. The notion that a case that has been dismissed, specifically as allegations, can be presented as evidence of guilt is preposterous. This is one of the most preposterous notions I have ever seen on a political forum, and it belongs in the conspiracy section.
    I'm not really sure where to start? Maybe in the text of your sig that states 'in consideration of their affirmative assumption of responsibility'?
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" 'I never had sex with that woman."

    Let the record show that my very good friend Nordberg is highly fragile and becomes extremely unhinged and violent when politicians lie. Well, maybe just "SOME" politicians.
    Nothing in the ACA removed your doctors from your insurance policy. I kept mine. Still have the same one.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I thought that in the beginning, many of them wanted the Supreme Court nomination and most of them hated Hillary, but those that continue to support him as he trashes the state of our Union shouldn’t be called smart.
    Trashing the state of our union? You mean like,

    Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
    More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
    Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election.
    Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
    Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
    New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
    Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
    African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
    Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
    Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
    , veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

    Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
    The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
    95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.

    Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
    As a result of tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

    Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
    Record number of regulations eliminated.
    Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

    Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
    more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.


    Expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

    Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
    United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

    Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
    Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

    Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
    Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
    Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

    Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
    Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

    Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
    C

    Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
    We have begun BUILDING THE WALL
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Maybe they just like Trump because, Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
    More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
    Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election.
    Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
    Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
    New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
    Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
    African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
    Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
    Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
    , veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

    Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
    The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
    95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.

    Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
    As a result of tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

    Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
    Record number of regulations eliminated.
    Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

    Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
    more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.


    Expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

    Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
    United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

    Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
    Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

    Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
    Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
    Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

    Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
    Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

    Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
    C

    Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
    We have begun BUILDING THE WALL
    LMAO

    Poor Bobo
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The reason they hated Hillary is that the right-wing machine demonized her for a generation. They ran phony house investigations for 2 decades. They figured she was a potential Dem candidate somewhere down the line and they went after her over and over. It was cold and ruthless, in short Republican. Those who hate her are mostly those who love Trump. They swallow the lies and propaganda completely. They are suscepible to conmen.
    Maybe they're just more susceptible to this huh?

    Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
    More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
    Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election.
    Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
    Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
    New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
    Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
    African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
    Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
    Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
    , veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

    Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
    The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
    95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.

    Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
    As a result of tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

    Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
    Record number of regulations eliminated.
    Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

    Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
    more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.


    Expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

    Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
    United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

    Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
    Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

    Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
    Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
    Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

    Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
    Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

    Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
    C

    Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
    We have begun BUILDING THE WALL
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I thought that in the beginning, many of them wanted the Supreme Court nomination and most of them hated Hillary, but those that continue to support him as he trashes the state of our Union shouldn’t be called smart.
    just out of curiosity, what do you think has been trashed?.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Robo was hatched yesterday.
    Hi Nordie! Starting your post with hatred and insults still, I see.

    He was not sentient when Obama came in office facing a potential second great depression. He fixed the Republican mess and it was terrific that he could.
    Actually Nordie, when the housing crisis happened both houses of the Congress were a majority of Democrats. They did nothing legislatively to prevent that crisis. All Obummer did when he took office was further the Bush administration's BIG CROOKED BANK BAIL OUT program that Obummer voted for as a Senator.

    Trump's economy is just the same one that Obama left him.
    Of course it is in your biased partisan mind. All positives belong to Obummer and all negatives belong to Trump in your fantasy world.

    The more Trump does, the more he shows his ignorance and avarice. Trumps stupid tariff crap is impacting the market and future planning for corportions. When Daffy is through ,it will be shown what an unqualified president we had to suffer through.
    What Trump has done Nordie is.

    Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
    More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
    Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election.
    Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
    Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
    New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
    Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
    African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
    Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
    Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
    , veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

    Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
    The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
    95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.

    Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
    As a result of tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

    Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
    Record number of regulations eliminated.
    Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

    Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
    more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.


    Expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

    Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
    United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

    Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
    Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

    Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
    Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
    Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

    Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
    Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

    Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
    C

    Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
    We have begun BUILDING THE WALL
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    I have Conservative friends who Voted for Trump and they are ashamed to admit their mistake.
    dude, they're just ashamed to admit they're your friends...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    So, you're saying you understand the Constitution and that's why you hate it, right? You really didn't have to admit that, we who have noticed your post have been totally aware of it.
    Nope, I sure didn’t say that, dumbfuck.

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    Hello CharacterAssassin,

    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Only problem being, of course, is that there is absolutely no credible evidence that Cruz has any morals whatsoever and he's a dominionist/Christian reconstructionist who believes in magic.
    True, but as low and dismaying as he is, Trump is lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    'An anguished question from a Trump supporter: "Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?"

    The serious answer: Here’s what we really think about Trump supporters - the rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't...

    That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."

    That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."

    That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."

    That when he made up stories about seeing muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."

    That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "He sure knows me."

    That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!"

    That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.

    That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?"

    That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."

    That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"

    That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!"

    That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"

    That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."

    That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!"

    That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"

    That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."

    That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"

    That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids. has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “well, ok then.”

    That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.

    What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2019, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.

    Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.'
    They are stupid, but none of them are "innocent" or "well meaning." Their existence is an affront to decency itself.
    Forgiving a Trumpanzee is as stupid as being one.

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    Hello Evmetro,

    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    I vet all my news before I believe anything, and I broke the rapist quote down immediately to see what exactly he did and didn't say. I broke it down just as I have it in the thread on this forum, sentence by sentence, until I could be sure of who exactly he called rapists and what exactly he really did say. The MSM was claiming that he said things that he didn't, so I had to ignore what the MSM was saying.
    "I had to ignore the main stream media"

    Ridiculous. There is no justification for abandoning trust that the main stream media is generally a reliable source of information. Sure, there is bias. And it is recognizable with practice. It does not justify completely discounting the entire main stream media. Looks to me like you simply believe what you want to believe, and find a way to justify it.

    "Lefties cannot objectively break down a statement the way I did,"

    You analysis strike me as anything BUT objective.

    " because lefties cannot separate themselves from their ideology for long enough to evaluate something from a non partisan position."

    That is exactly what I see you doing.

    " As long as all roads must lead to Trump having called Mexicans, as a group, "rapists", there is no way for a lefty to evaluate other plausible paths. I never found any quotes or examples of Trump saying that Mexicans as a group were rapists as the MSM continues to claim so I kept my financial support with Trump.[/QUOTE]

    You completely avoided my point about the Access Hollywood video in order to focus on something else. That revealing video was Trump's own words. There was no media bias in that video. That was a clear look into the man's demented mind. The fact that you have avoided even commenting on it here SHOWS your bias. I don't see how anybody with respect for a woman's right to not be sexually exploited can watch that gross display of chauvinism and still support that man. His behavior is inexcusable for a leader. Once Trump supporters managed to look the other way on that one, I knew they were not thinking objectively. To Trump many supporters, the thought of favorable Supreme Court decisions for the foreseeable future outweighed morality. And that was apparent when they proceeded to put a drunkard rapist on the SCOTUS.
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