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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Only 74 votes separated them.

    But that's not the whole story.

    You really have to look at half of that.

    74/2 = 37.
    Another new way to marginalize Trump's BIG victory! I hit the jackpot this morning!

    Why look at half?

    Because any vote that Trump did not get would have gone to Hillary.

    If 1 vote flips then it reduces the difference by 2 votes.

    That's why you only look at half.
    Music to my ears...

    So if 37 votes flipped, it would have been a tie.

    If 38 votes flipped, it would have gone to Hillary.

    38 electoral votes isn't a big margin.

    Florida barely went for Trump. That was 29 votes right there.

    Couple that with any other state which barely went for Trump and had at least 9 electoral votes, and it would not have taken much to reverse the entire election.

    Trump barely won by 2 states.

    Thin margin, overinflated by the misrepresentative electoral college totals, which do not reflect the overall vote.
    That's all great stuff, but here is the reality: Trump kicked Hillary's ass with 306 votes to Hillary's paltry 232. I have the upper hand in this debate, since Trump really did kick Hillary's ass with 306 ass kicking votes and Hillary really was only able to round up a lousy 232 votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    you added Obama's stimulus spending in 2009 to Bush's budget.....
    How do you figure that?
    The info I posted comes from the US Treasury website and I took it from the first day of Obama's first fiscal budget and the day he took over responsibility for the debt. Oct 1 2009

    Here is the website https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/de...startDay=&star
    put in Oct 1 2009 and Sept.30 2017 and you will get the debt numbers now subtract the 2009 number from the 2017 number and you will get what Obama ran up the debt
    There is NO Obama stimulus added to Bushes debt numbers
    have a nice day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbird19482 View Post
    How do you figure that?
    because you have the numbers wrong.....Obama got the stimulus passed in February, 2009.......some provisions went into effect immediately.......that spending is NOT Bush's spending......the national debt when Obama took office was just $9.8T if you add in the 2009 budget it becomes around $10.5T.......when he left office it was $19T but if you add in 2017 it tops $20T....

    http://fortune.com/2017/01/20/barack...ountry-moodys/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Another new way to marginalize Trump's BIG victory! I hit the jackpot this morning!



    Music to my ears...



    That's all great stuff, but here is the reality: Trump kicked Hillary's ass with 306 votes to Hillary's paltry 232. I have the upper hand in this debate, since Trump really did kick Hillary's ass with 306 ass kicking votes and Hillary really was only able to round up a lousy 232 votes.
    all you are doing is convincing the people on this thread that you are nothing but a fool and doing a great job of it.
    Have a nice day

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    because you have the numbers wrong.....Obama got the stimulus passed in February, 2009.......some provisions went into effect immediately.......that spending is NOT Bush's spending......the national debt when Obama took office was just $9.8T if you add in the 2009 budget it becomes around $10.5T.......when he left office it was $19T but if you add in 2017 it tops $20T....

    http://fortune.com/2017/01/20/barack...ountry-moodys/
    again here is the US Treasury website
    The Incoming President does NOT take over the debt or the budget till OCT 1 of the year he takes office and anything before that is on the last President
    and by the US Treasury the debt was 11,920,519,164,319.42 on Oct 1 2009 NOT 9.8 Trillion
    you are putting over 2 Trillion dollars on to Obama's debt numbers that belong on Bush's
    again here is the US Treasuries website you can get the real facts here
    https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/de...ay=13&endYear=
    besides Obama's stimulus package was only 832 Billion not the Trillions you are saying so subtract 832 B from the 11.920T and Bush's debt is still OVER 11 Trillion dollars NOT the 9.8 trillion you are saying

    Have a nice day

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    Hello Evmetro,

    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    I have the upper hand in this debate
    You're not debating. You're simply repeating yourself.

    And the way you keep saying the same thing over and over suggests that you are trying to convince yourself more than anybody else.

    Another note: Saying the same untruth repeatedly does not make it any less untrue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    because you have the numbers wrong.....Obama got the stimulus passed in February, 2009.......some provisions went into effect immediately.......that spending is NOT Bush's spending......the national debt when Obama took office was just $9.8T if you add in the 2009 budget it becomes around $10.5T.......when he left office it was $19T but if you add in 2017 it tops $20T....

    http://fortune.com/2017/01/20/barack...ountry-moodys/
    Why was the stimulus put in? It was to fix the Bush depression. The date it was done is irrelevant. Why it why it was needed is the point. The money was spent to fix the Bush/Republican crash. You are as usual quibbling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbird19482 View Post
    again here is the US Treasury website
    The Incoming President does NOT take over the debt or the budget till OCT 1 of the year he takes office and anything before that is on the last President
    and by the US Treasury the debt was 11,920,519,164,319.42 on Oct 1 2009 NOT 9.8 Trillion
    you are putting over 2 Trillion dollars on to Obama's debt numbers that belong on Bush's
    again here is the US Treasuries website you can get the real facts here
    https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/de...ay=13&endYear=
    besides Obama's stimulus package was only 832 Billion not the Trillions you are saying so subtract 832 B from the 11.920T and Bush's debt is still OVER 11 Trillion dollars NOT the 9.8 trillion you are saying

    Have a nice day
    you should stop misrepresenting the facts......it makes you look like a mindless lib'rul.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Why was the stimulus put in?
    because Obama made an incredible fucking error.......a shame we can't have a mulligan on that!.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbird19482 View Post
    all you are doing is convincing the people on this thread that you are nothing but a fool and doing a great job of it.
    Have a nice day
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Evmetro,



    You're not debating. You're simply repeating yourself.
    Since the vote tally is not debatable, you have a good point. The score for Trump's Big victory was 306 to 232, his BIG victory cannot be erased. No debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post

    Another note: Saying the same untruth repeatedly does not make it any less untrue.
    Trump REALLY DID kick Hillary's ass, 306 to 232. This fact will always be true. Do not deny Trump's BIG victory, the score has already been recorded in history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbird19482 View Post
    all you are doing is convincing the people on this thread that you are nothing but a fool and doing a great job of it.
    Have a nice day
    I am not here to convince anybody of anything. I am here for the pleasure I get from watching lefties trying to deny or marginalize Trump's BIG victory. Did I mention that Trump kicked Hillary's ass, 306 to 232?
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    Despite annoying repeated attempts to swing the conversation away from the Thread title and OP, this liberal still does not simply assume all Trump supporters are stupid.

    It is shallow to stereotype 35% of the nation along political lines. We're all Americans, and we all want the nation to do well. We simply disagree on what will cause that.

    Many Trump supporters seem to be wrongly motivated by hatred of others not like them. They think immigrants are hurting the nation, but there is not strong evidence of that. Immigrants, especially undocumented ones, do not want to get into trouble, bring attention upon themselves, or get deported. They tend to lay low and try to stay out of government scrutiny. They also use fewer government services than American citizens do. They often just work and pay taxes but they never file or get refunds.
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    The thread does not say all. On this board, the reds are the rudest and crudest, while showing less information and facts digested. Overall, the nastiness starts when a conservative begins to type. The absolute dumbest on this board are Trumpies. Many are actually funny when they protect Trump. They do not know that though. They are also exasperating when you see what crap they actually buy.
    Truth is the ones who believe Trump ,are showing how susceptible they are to the siren song of a conman.

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    Giving stupid racist a pass is what is wrong with this country today.

    His supporters are RACIST AND STUPID.

    To give them a pass is coddling their racism...….you might as well be racist yourself...…..just saying.

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