Guno צְבִי (01-11-2019), kudzu (01-12-2019), Phantasmal (01-10-2019)
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Ya know?
I don't get it.
They walk right up to the gates.
We have caravans of people coming here to seek asylum. They walk up to the gates and declare they are requesting asylum. We can't process them fast enough; so they are released into the USA. Although we might separate parents and children and not tell them where to find one another. But still they come. They are not trying to cross illegally. They walk right up to the crossings.
How is a wall supposed to stop this?
Doesn't it have gates? Isn't THAT where asylum seekers are getting in?
Seems like the wrong approach.
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Maybe we need to increase our ability to process asylum seekers.
Ya think?
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Guno צְבִי (01-11-2019), kudzu (01-12-2019), Phantasmal (01-10-2019)
incorrect. they do both.They are not trying to cross illegally. They walk right up to the crossings.
cancel2 2022 (01-11-2019)
Well, One ... if you have 'Gates', there must be some kind of Fence or Wall.
Two. I think it's a 'Sales gimmick' for the Trump base.
Think about it, who does 'Cheap Labor' benefit?
The OP is right if the answer is "it does not."
PoliTalker (01-11-2019)
How come during the last two years, when Repubs controlled the House, why wasn't this a Big Issue?
Guno צְבִי (01-11-2019), kudzu (01-12-2019), Phantasmal (01-10-2019), PoliTalker (01-11-2019)
can't build a wall a couple thousand miles long to begin with, it would take a decade and cost hundreds of billions and entail eminent domain court cases for years and years
it's just a big Trump fantasy campaign promise, pure kabuki
Guno צְבִי (01-11-2019), Phantasmal (01-10-2019)
Hello Jack,
They tried it and it didn't pass.
And it would look pretty silly to shut down the government over a disagreement with his own party.
Trump had to wait until the Dems controlled the house.
Makes for better theatrics.
Great for diverting attention away from collusion.
Also good rallying call to the base for 2020.
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Jack (01-11-2019)
To "increase our ability to process" would mean they get sent back faster, so the democrats would never go for that. The simple answer is change the law and stop accepting their applications if you want to stop them. Require that they file their application in person in Turkey. There are plenty of ways to handle that.
Hello Kacper,
Such a requirement is just as absurd as it sounds.
The USA does not produce enough American babies to maintain our population level.
Without immigrants, the USA would eventually die out.
Republicans are fighting a losing battle in going up against immigration.
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about half of illegals (660,000) are visa overstays, get them out.
reinstate the https://www.uscis.gov/CAM program that your moron in chief cancelled and expand it so all asylum seekers have to apply in their own country. when they are declined they are in their home country so no transport expenses are involved.
Examine the border to determine if any more wall would actually help.
Examine aid to the triangle to determine how it needs to be adjusted. https://www.usglc.org/faq-violence-m...ntral-america/
Get serious about punishing employers that hire illegals.
Develop a serious program to bring in temporary agriculture workers.
understand that more illegals are leaving than are coming in and stop the trump induced rabid hysteria.
Understand that a wall will not deter people desperate to escape poverty and drug cartels
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine
Phantasmal (01-12-2019), PoliTalker (01-13-2019)
Hello kudzu,
Great post. Thanks.
All that makes too much sense. Where's the photo-ops in that? No theatrics. Just smart leadership. His followers would never understand. They seem to be more of a visual / emotional crowd. Deep thinking eludes them. Deep state conspiracy theories. That is more on their level.
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kudzu (01-13-2019)
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