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    why do you side with drug traffickers, nordie?.......protecting your supply lines?........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loving91390 View Post
    Gee ... I guess they need drug sniffing dogs .... Problem fixed .
    We could address the drug/immigrant problem much more efficiently with your idea of detection dogs, upgraded surveillance hardware/software, and more personnel -- rather than the stupid Ego Wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    We could address the drug/immigrant problem much more efficiently with your idea of detection dogs, upgraded surveillance hardware/software, and more personnel -- rather than the stupid Ego Wall.
    It's OK .... You can go sit in the corner .... We got this !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loving91390 View Post
    It's OK .... You can go sit in the corner .... We got this !
    You wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    How much is being hauled across the desert on foot where there are no roads?
    they pack in loads
    Mostly the coyotes demand the migrants carry loads as mules; part of their payment to get in the USA.
    Yes it's hauled on on back backs
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    drug mule

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    According to the DEA, the majority of the heroin consumed in the United States comes from Mexico (50%) and Colombia (43-45%) via Mexican criminal cartels such as Sinaloa Cartel.

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    Nearly all of the heroin fueling a U.S. resurgence enters the country over the 1,933-mile Mexico border, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

    Customs officers in Nogales have seized more heroin in the first six months of fiscal 2014 than during each of the past three full fiscal years, Agosttini said.

    Most is hidden in vehicles crossing through ports of entry like the bustling Nogales gate. Smaller amounts are carried in on foot by men dubbed "mules," hiking established desert smuggling routes. Some is ferried in by plane or boat.


    Most is taken to stash houses in cities near the international line — San Diego and Los Angeles; Tucson and Phoenix; and El Paso, Laredo, McAllen and Brownsville, Texas. From there, operatives drive loads along interstate freeways to destinations across the country.

    The operations are highly compartmentalized, said Douglas Coleman, special agent in charge of the Phoenix Division of the DEA.

    "Nobody knows each other. Nobody knows anything. The transporters, they only know they're supposed to go to Detroit, and when they get to Detroit, they're supposed to call a phone number and await instructions," he said.

    Often, payments are handled by other operatives. DEA officials concentrate on identifying and apprehending top-level cartel commanders, but the smuggling networks are specifically engineered to thwart law enforcement.

    "When we arrest one, it's hard for us to get the entire picture, because everybody has a role in the organization, but nobody knows what the others' roles are," Coleman said. "When we catch a guy, he doesn't have anything to tell us. All he has is a number."


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...surge/9713909/
    Heroin is not the killer, the fentanyl mixed in is, and it comes from China by US Mail:

    https://www.popsci.com/opioid-epidemic-charts-cdc

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...617-story.html

    lowing in one direction, this fentanyl pipeline runs through Mexican cartel strongholds and heads north on well-established drug trafficking routes. It funnels 80 percent of the drug through the San Diego border before dispersing throughout the U.S.

    The pipeline flows in another direction, as well, direct from Chinese laboratories to U.S. customers through the mail, bringing small, hard-to-detect packages of extremely pure fentanyl to suburban doorsteps.

    Both channels are feeding a deadly epidemic, moving a drug so potent that the equivalent of a few grains of table salt can be fatal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Heroin is not the killer, the fentanyl mixed in is, and it comes from China by US Mail:

    https://www.popsci.com/opioid-epidemic-charts-cdc

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...617-story.html

    lowing in one direction, this fentanyl pipeline runs through Mexican cartel strongholds and heads north on well-established drug trafficking routes. It funnels 80 percent of the drug through the San Diego border before dispersing throughout the U.S.

    The pipeline flows in another direction, as well, direct from Chinese laboratories to U.S. customers through the mail, bringing small, hard-to-detect packages of extremely pure fentanyl to suburban doorsteps.

    Both channels are feeding a deadly epidemic, moving a drug so potent that the equivalent of a few grains of table salt can be fatal.

    Thank you.. It seems most f these drugs are coming in thru established entries not across open land without roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Hardly. It makes no economic sense to do that where one BP agent could spot someone in the desert from far off and easily intercept a shipment.

    The VAST majority of drugs coming through the southern border are in passenger cars and commercial trucks at ports of entry.
    So why does Trump persist in lying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    they pack in loads
    Mostly the coyotes demand the migrants carry loads as mules; part of their payment to get in the USA.
    Yes it's hauled on on back backs

    Don't we have the technology to monitor people walking in the desert?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Don't we have the technology to monitor people walking in the desert?
    I think it's called land mines!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    I think it's called land mines!!
    I was thinking drones.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    I was thinking drones.............
    Do you have any idea how many drones it would take, to patrol the border, in just one State!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Do you have any idea how many drones it would take, to patrol the border, in just one State!!
    I think in areas that don't have walls or entry check points, drones would probably work. Trump pushes the idea that only a barrier along the whole border will work. We also have 22,000 border patrol agents these days. Are they getting paid during Trump's shutdown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    So why does Trump persist in lying?
    He's a lifelong compulsive and pathological liar.

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