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    Default Where Does US Heroin Come From? Heroin's Hidden Journey

    According to the DEA, the majority of the heroin consumed in the United States comes from Mexico (50%) and Colombia (43-45%) via Mexican criminal cartels such as Sinaloa Cartel.

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    Nearly all of the heroin fueling a U.S. resurgence enters the country over the 1,933-mile Mexico border, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

    Customs officers in Nogales have seized more heroin in the first six months of fiscal 2014 than during each of the past three full fiscal years, Agosttini said.

    Most is hidden in vehicles crossing through ports of entry like the bustling Nogales gate. Smaller amounts are carried in on foot by men dubbed "mules," hiking established desert smuggling routes. Some is ferried in by plane or boat.


    Most is taken to stash houses in cities near the international line — San Diego and Los Angeles; Tucson and Phoenix; and El Paso, Laredo, McAllen and Brownsville, Texas. From there, operatives drive loads along interstate freeways to destinations across the country.

    The operations are highly compartmentalized, said Douglas Coleman, special agent in charge of the Phoenix Division of the DEA.

    "Nobody knows each other. Nobody knows anything. The transporters, they only know they're supposed to go to Detroit, and when they get to Detroit, they're supposed to call a phone number and await instructions," he said.

    Often, payments are handled by other operatives. DEA officials concentrate on identifying and apprehending top-level cartel commanders, but the smuggling networks are specifically engineered to thwart law enforcement.

    "When we arrest one, it's hard for us to get the entire picture, because everybody has a role in the organization, but nobody knows what the others' roles are," Coleman said. "When we catch a guy, he doesn't have anything to tell us. All he has is a number."


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    Mexico grows small "plantations" ( fields) in the Sierra Madre, mountain system.
    Most is driven in, but there is still enough foot traffic from illegal crossings.

    There are a couple of Mexican army task squads that try to find and destroy the poppies

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Mexico grows small "plantations" ( fields) in the Sierra Madre, mountain system.
    Most is driven in, but there is still enough foot traffic from illegal crossings.

    There are a couple of Mexican army task squads that try to find and destroy the poppies
    How much is being hauled across the desert on foot where there are no roads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    How much is being hauled across the desert on foot where there are no roads?
    they pack in loads
    Mostly the coyotes demand the migrants carry loads as mules; part of their payment to get in the USA.
    Yes it's hauled on on back backs
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    they pack in loads
    Mostly the coyotes demand the migrants carry loads as mules; part of their payment to get in the USA.
    Yes it's hauled on on back backs

    Don't we have the technology to monitor people walking in the desert?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Don't we have the technology to monitor people walking in the desert?
    I think it's called land mines!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Mexico grows small "plantations" ( fields) in the Sierra Madre, mountain system.
    Most is driven in, but there is still enough foot traffic from illegal crossings.

    There are a couple of Mexican army task squads that try to find and destroy the poppies
    I imagine that poppies would be visible via satellite. I also imagine that poppies might die if "accidentally" sprayed by drones carrying Round-Up.

    But if you want to successfully treat addiction, first you must identify the why part of addiction, rather than the supply part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I imagine that poppies would be visible via satellite. I also imagine that poppies might die if "accidentally" sprayed by drones carrying Round-Up.

    But if you want to successfully treat addiction, first you must identify the why part of addiction, rather than the supply part.
    Roundup causes mesothelioma ..... Maybe that's how people got it .

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    supply and demand


    capitalism


    see why it needs proper fettering


    it would be much cheaper to attack this problem through controlling the demand huh

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    Here are 18 of the largest drug busts in 2018. I assume in San Diego since this is it's NBC affiliate. Scanning the 18, almost all are through legal checkpoints, legal 'pedestrian' crossings, CARS, some appear to be US mail or ship (those going to HI). A few are non-specific and say simply 'border' interceptions. Some creative methods here, apparently not creative enough.

    How will a WALL or a 'slatted fence' stop these? That's not a provocative question. I'm asking HOW?

    https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...502385332.html
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Here are 18 of the largest drug busts in 2018. I assume in San Diego since this is it's NBC affiliate. Scanning the 18, almost all are through legal checkpoints, legal 'pedestrian' crossings, CARS, some appear to be US mail or ship (those going to HI). A few are non-specific and say simply 'border' interceptions. Some creative methods here, apparently not creative enough.

    How will a WALL or a 'slatted fence' stop these? That's not a provocative question. I'm asking HOW?

    https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...502385332.html
    Because you want everything to go through a checkpoint, not around it. For every bust you read about here there are hundreds more that made it through. Not through a checkpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Because you want everything to go through a checkpoint, not around it. For every bust you read about here there are hundreds more that made it through. Not through a checkpoint.
    Really?.. Are they moving heroin into the US where there are NO roads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Really.. Are the moving heroin into the US where there are NO roads?
    You seriously have no idea how things are smuggled into a country. I suppose that is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Really?.. Are they moving heroin into the US where there are NO roads?
    Hardly. It makes no economic sense to do that where one BP agent could spot someone in the desert from far off and easily intercept a shipment.

    The VAST majority of drugs coming through the southern border are in passenger cars and commercial trucks at ports of entry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Hardly. It makes no economic sense to do that where one BP agent could spot someone in the desert from far off and easily intercept a shipment.

    The VAST majority of drugs coming through the southern border are in passenger cars and commercial trucks at ports of entry.
    So why does Trump persist in lying?
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