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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    They want to take Taiwan back and totally control the South China Sea. They already control much of Africa and are busily doing the same throughout South East Asia. At least Trump is taking them on, before it's too late.
    Why yes. It’s just pathetic how all American Presidents have kow towed to China and Trump finally stood up to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Oh brother... you guys are hilarious.
    So why did the Vietnamese have a huge demonstration in Saigon, which I witnessed, against the Chinese taking over the Spratley Islands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Why yes. It’s just pathetic how all American Presidents have kow towed to China and Trump finally stood up to them.
    Yes, you are right, despite your pisspoor attempt at sarcasm. You need to get up to speed with events over here, even Thailand is getting mighty pissed off with the Chinese bully boys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Hmm, I imagined that it was saying exactly that.
    Well you’re wrong. The figures you’re citing are in GDP purchasing parity power and not nominal GDP and the figure that really counts is per capita GDP. In terms of nominal GDP the US represents 25% of the worlds economy. In nominal GDP the US is still $10 trillion annually ahead of China. Then consider that the US per capita GDP, the figure that really counts, is over 7 times greater than China.

    Now let’s consider China and India’s populations where each country has more people living in abject poverty than the entire population of the US. This is a monumental problem for both countries which is a great drain on resources and has a huge potential for internal political instability if the problem isn’t addressed.

    So yes China’s growing economy presents certain geopolitical issues for the US that will have to be addressed but the sky isn’t falling. Not by a long shot when you consider both internal economic, social and political problems dwarf those of the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Yes, you are right, despite your pisspoor attempt at sarcasm. You need to get up to speed with events over here, even Thailand is getting mighty pissed off with the Chinese bully boys.
    Yup and guess where the US has had a huge naval presence since well before Trump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    There are just so many arrogant, ignorant and complacent people on here. Well maybe this might wake you lot up!!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rpass-U-S.html
    given population figures it is inevitable.......the country with the most consumers wins as soon as those consumers can afford to buy anything besides bare necessities........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    There are just so many arrogant, ignorant and complacent people on here. Well maybe this might wake you lot up!!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rpass-U-S.html
    Isn't this the goal, to bring third word countries into the wonders of capitalism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Doris, you're an idiot!! Go see some of the world before the dementia really kicks in.
    Rana is just stating what everyone knows.....the EU only existed because the European nations realized that individually they were all destined to become irrelevant.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    id say he’s intelligent but a psychopath.
    definitely misguided.......why else would he have let Damo talk him into managing this zoo.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Yup and guess where the US has had a huge naval presence since well before Trump?
    If you mean Subic Bay, that shut down years ago!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Well you’re wrong. The figures you’re citing are in GDP purchasing parity power and not nominal GDP and the figure that really counts is per capita GDP. In terms of nominal GDP the US represents 25% of the worlds economy. In nominal GDP the US is still $10 trillion annually ahead of China. Then consider that the US per capita GDP, the figure that really counts, is over 7 times greater than China.

    Now let’s consider China and India’s populations where each country has more people living in abject poverty than the entire population of the US. This is a monumental problem for both countries which is a great drain on resources and has a huge potential for internal political instability if the problem isn’t addressed.

    So yes China’s growing economy presents certain geopolitical issues for the US that will have to be addressed but the sky isn’t falling. Not by a long shot when you consider both internal economic, social and political problems dwarf those of the US.
    I really think you don't get it, China is building or planning high-speed railways all over S E Asia. One of those will go through Laos, Thailand down to Singapore and another through Vietnam, the Eastern Seaboard and Bangkok. The infrastructure plans are truly enormous, what's the US doing? The Chinese are currently building 20 new nuclear reactors, expanding their military massively and rapidly overtaking the US and Japan in electronics. Maybe if you came here you'd see all those Chinese, living in abject poverty, swarming around all the shopping malls in Bangkok and Pattaya buying Rolex and Cartier watches? Oh and I ought to add that they have built 20 thousand kilometres of high-speed rail in China, they'll probably build another 10 thousand before California finishes theirs!

    Another recent phenomena is Indian tourists, they are everywhere in Pattaya now. There is a huge Indian middle class, bigger than the entire US population and they've got money to burn. As for Russians, they are bloody everywhere Desh would have a blue arsed fit!! Plenty of bots here, mostly attached to really fit looking Russian blonde bints!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Will you be sending your children to Chinese Language Classes?
    There won't be a need, more people speak English in China than there are people in the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    There won't be a need, more people speak English in China than there are people in the United States.
    In my opinion, we are under attack by China, a nationalistic ethno-state. They want World Dominance in economics and culture. They have disguised themselves as 'Global Partners', but in reality are practicing a mercantilist approach to National Power. We are under cyber-attack by the Chinese Military, stealing everything they can get their hands on. They provide their State owned businesses with the latest American (and others) technological breakthroughs and advancements. Americans point at their massive Military Machines, "Look at the Big Aircraft Carrier", while China develops the capabilities to render these things useless for pennies on the dollar.

    China lands on Far Side of Moon, ... America has Government Shutdown. (Doesn't look too good for the Home Team)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    That is perfectly true but why then are they building up their military to such a degree, who is their perceived enemy? Vietnam recently allowed the USS Vinson to dock in Da Nang, who would have predicted that even ten years ago?

    https://www.google.co.th/url?sa=t&so...V2f5XFSKfJz0wh
    My OPINION on that is that this is a nation that is paranoid and run by paranoia. Most despotic regimes are. Therefore, it is an attempt to tell the world not to try to interfere with their sovereignty and beware if you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    America, of course, spends al its money on doves and peace propaganda. There's nice!
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