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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    If California decides to break away (as so many American conservatives hope it does)...the US economy will probably end up behind Japan, Germany, the UK, France and Italy also.
    Lol
    Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    They are still flexing their muscles, not being subject to the type of media in the West they can bide their time. They want to totally control SE Asia, trust me I've seen it at first hand. It is amazing how many Chinese there are here now, Pattaya is swarming with them.
    I don't disagree with you that they want to control the Asian continent; but they will only do it through the exploitation of their nations resources and citizens. They have never in their entire history done it through armed force.

    China buys US debt in order to prop up their own currency. They also manipulate their currency to keep their economy afloat. As I said, that house of cards only stands as long as they are a Communist Dictatorship and allow the continues exploitation of their environment and citizens. I believe that to be unsustainable much like it was in the former Soviet Union.

    Trump is right to charge them with unfair acts and negotiate strongly with them to prevent further erosion to our industries.
    “A wise and frugal government… shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.” — Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Can you come back next year? JPP has fulfilled its moron quota for this year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    They are still flexing their muscles, not being subject to the type of media in the West they can bide their time. They want to totally control SE Asia, trust me I've seen it at first hand. It is amazing how many Chinese there are here now, Pattaya is swarming with them.
    " 1 road 1 belt" + S.China sea hegemony = hard and soft power
    everyone else are "barbarians" Middle Kingdom" = who they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    There are just so many arrogant, ignorant and complacent people on here. Well maybe this might wake you lot up!!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rpass-U-S.html
    With less than a third of either of their populations, that isn't shocking. The advancements both have made, plus the raw labor power would suggest that is precisely what should happen.

    Now put all of the European countries together and tell us where you all stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Like your friend mentioned, I think they are focused on becoming THE World Power. Imposing their beliefs, customs, culture, and Governing on everyone else.
    Do YOU enjoy Individual Liberty? That's NOT what THEY believe.
    They are obviously intending to be a world power, like the USA, imposing their beliefs etcetera on everyone else maybe. No, I don't enjoy individual liberty - I live under capitalism, like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Let's be clear here; China has NEVER invaded anyone. The only time they have engaged was either, when they were attacked, or when North Korea was about to be defeated and they would have no buffer with Capitalism.

    In order for China to become what this article stupidly predicts, they would have to first release their citizens from bondage, stop allowing the exploitation of their environment and their people's wages.

    I don't see that happening unless their Communist regime collapses.

    Let's be very clear here; the ONLY reason China is an industrial juggernaut is that they allow the exploitation of their people and their environment.
    That is perfectly true but why then are they building up their military to such a degree, who is their perceived enemy? Vietnam recently allowed the USS Vinson to dock in Da Nang, who would have predicted that even ten years ago?

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    I looked at "1 belt 1 road" infrastructure goals,and control of ports is a biggie.
    Then the fact the People's Liberation Army is the worlds largest.

    They ain't doing all this for fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    There are just so many arrogant, ignorant and complacent people on here. Well maybe this might wake you lot up!!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rpass-U-S.html
    Well Tom it’s not like the American economy would be shrinking or our standard of living falling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Well Tom it’s not like the American economy would be shrinking or our standard of living falling.
    Hmm, I imagined that it was saying exactly that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    I looked at "1 belt 1 road" infrastructure goals,and control of ports is a biggie.
    Then the fact the People's Liberation Army is the worlds largest.

    They ain't doing all this for fun
    America, of course, spends al its money on doves and peace propaganda. There's nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    America, of course, spends al its money on doves and peace propaganda. There's nice!
    Taffy is a fool, even Vietnam is shitting itself over Chinese hegemony. Why else did the USS Vinson, flagship of the Seventh Fleet, dock in Da Nang? They know that the Chinese want to have total control over the South China Sea and are rapidly militarising the Spratley and Paracel Islands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere
    Oh brother... you guys are hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    They are obviously intending to be a world power, like the USA, imposing their beliefs etcetera on everyone else maybe. No, I don't enjoy individual liberty - I live under capitalism, like everyone else.

    China has a system of State Capitalism, so what would be the difference in the economic order?

    iolo: "No, I don't enjoy individual liberty ..."
    Jack: Oh. Sorry to hear that. I prefer the concept of a Free Expression environment. I would hate for a Chinese style 'Censorship' to be imposed on the Nation and that be the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Grind’s got you beat by miles. He is very intelligent, he’s just misguided.
    id say he’s intelligent but a psychopath.
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