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    Default Eco-Nazis turned California into a tinderbox



    This season brought fires that burned hotter, moved faster, and claimed more lives and property than in past decades.

    The DEMOCRAT governor and the partisan news media were quick to cite "climate change" as the culprit.

    Outgoing Gov. "Moonbeam" Brown (D) claimed that the Beholden State will have to spend “probably hundreds of billions” to combat “global warming".

    Echoing Brown, Scott McClean of the California Department of Forest and Fire Protection (CAL Fire) claimed that “the problem is changing climate.”

    Apparently, then, the solution is to pour “hundreds of billions” of dollars into government. What specifically this money would fund is not clear, nor are the measures that could be taken to “fight” a changing climate.

    From the Ventana Wilderness in Big Sur to Warner Valley on Mt. Lassen, trails are allowed to become overgrown, bordered by dead trunks and dry limbs. When trees fall, instead of the dead wood being cleared, it’s left along paths and roadways. Underbrush is left untouched as well, with forest floors blanketed in dry kindling. This hands-off approach creates a literal tinderbox, leaving forests incredibly vulnerable.

    One practical solution, which would likely cost less than $100 billion, would be to clear the deadwood and dry brush annually. Additionally, firebreaks could be made along roads and highways, limiting fire’s ability to spread. If these solutions sound simple, that’s because they are.

    CAL Fire is ill prepared to manage forests, despite its $443 million budget. Rather than throw more money at a system that has failed, a commonsense solution is in order.










    https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/416956-california-failed-to-sufficiently-manage-its-forests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post


    This season brought fires that burned hotter, moved faster, and claimed more lives and property than in past decades.

    The DEMOCRAT governor and the partisan news media were quick to cite "climate change" as the culprit.

    Outgoing Gov. "Moonbeam" Brown (D) claimed that the Beholden State will have to spend “probably hundreds of billions” to combat “global warming".

    Echoing Brown, Scott McClean of the California Department of Forest and Fire Protection (CAL Fire) claimed that “the problem is changing climate.”

    Apparently, then, the solution is to pour “hundreds of billions” of dollars into government. What specifically this money would fund is not clear, nor are the measures that could be taken to “fight” a changing climate.

    From the Ventana Wilderness in Big Sur to Warner Valley on Mt. Lassen, trails are allowed to become overgrown, bordered by dead trunks and dry limbs. When trees fall, instead of the dead wood being cleared, it’s left along paths and roadways. Underbrush is left untouched as well, with forest floors blanketed in dry kindling. This hands-off approach creates a literal tinderbox, leaving forests incredibly vulnerable.

    One practical solution, which would likely cost less than $100 billion, would be to clear the deadwood and dry brush annually. Additionally, firebreaks could be made along roads and highways, limiting fire’s ability to spread. If these solutions sound simple, that’s because they are.

    CAL Fire is ill prepared to manage forests, despite its $443 million budget. Rather than throw more money at a system that has failed, a commonsense solution is in order.










    https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/416956-california-failed-to-sufficiently-manage-its-forests
    Just think of the pollution that was added, plus all the CO2 that was released into the atmosphere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Just think of the pollution that was added, plus all the CO2 that was released into the atmosphere.
    Maybe the EPA should fine the DEMOCRATS.

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    Firebreaks won't be effective against the Santa Ana winds. Moonscaping southern California is about the only way humans can be wildfire proof in that area, especially as densely populated as it is.

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    A classic example of brain dead liberals causing far more problems than they solve with their eco-nut do-gooderism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Firebreaks won't be effective against the Santa Ana winds. Moonscaping southern California is about the only way humans can be wildfire proof in that area, especially as densely populated as it is.
    Who told you that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Who told you that?
    If a six lane paved highway won't stop a forest fire in that area, a 100 foot wide strip with no trees isn't going to do shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Who told you that?
    Maybe he guessed.

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    What I find strange is the documented fact that California will not allow the educated and planned timbering of these lands (something that would benefit both nature and man)….but....allow them to be burned to the ground in an uncontrolled fashion placing both nature and man into great peril. The only plan that any democrat has is.....doing what is opposite of anything planned by the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    If a six lane paved highway won't stop a forest fire in that area, a 100 foot wide strip with no trees isn't going to do shit.
    Who told you that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    What I find strange is the documented fact that California will not allow the educated and planned timbering of these lands (something that would benefit both nature and man)….but....allow them to the ground in an uncontrolled fashion placing both nature and man into great peril. The only plan that any democrat has is.....doing what is opposite of anything planned by the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    If a six lane paved highway won't stop a forest fire in that area, a 100 foot wide strip with no trees isn't going to do shit.
    It's quite obvious you don't know that fuel is one of the three items that must be present for fire to burn. If there's no fuel, how does it burn in the 100' foot strip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    It's quite obvious you don't know that fuel is one of the three items that must be present for fire to burn. If there's no fuel, how does it burn in the 100' foot strip.
    This is truth based upon logic and reason. There is always the possibility of the embers from any natural fire jumping any fire break via wind....but these exceptions could and would be easily controlled with much less effort than facing a full force raging fire that is out of control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    It's quite obvious you don't know that fuel is one of the three items that must be present for fire to burn. If there's no fuel, how does it burn in the 100' foot strip.
    The Santa Ana winds blow embers across the 100 foot strip just like it blows them across the 6 lane highways. In addition, removing the native chapparral creates more fuel for the fires because non-native grasses and plants people bring with them are what is driving the acceleration of wildfires. Controlled burns, fire strips and the like are exactly the wrong approach for southern california. Sure they work in other places, but not there. The winds are too strong. The native species burned a lot less frequently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Who told you that?
    Maybe he thinks fire can burn without a fuel.

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