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Thread: Money Truly Doesn't Buy Happiness - World's Richest Man Bezos Is Getting A Divorce...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Who? lol This Should have been over long ago....This wall is part of the absolute need for improved border security....sad that Nancy and chuck don't care that so many are in a difficult situation...over such a small amount of $$....
    This is on them... (Ronil Singh's brother said it very powerfully..."Whatever it takes to minimize, put a stop to it, my family supports it..." Perhaps you would feel differently if you lost a child, a husband, or a brother, a grandmother...at the hand of someone who shouldn't be in this country....)
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    November 2018 Democratic majority elected in House
    January 2019 EMERGENCY

    Fact: Border apprehensions are at a 45 year low.
    There is no crisis at our border. It's fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
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    Fact: Border apprehensions are at a 45 year low.
    There is no crisis at our border. It's fake news.
    It's a necessary part of national security...border patrol agrees...they work there, after all...
    Not sure why you posted the "emergency stuff"...but if you're concerned about the shutdown ending, then so be it...

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    Hello Gotcha68,

    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
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    November 2018 Democratic majority elected in House
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    Fact: Border apprehensions are at a 45 year low.
    There is no crisis at our border. It's fake news.
    Well, you know, if he couldn't get it approved when Republicans had a majority in both houses, he could have shut down the government THEN.

    But he waits until the Democrats take the House. THEN it's some big emergency? Nothing at the border has changed. The only thing that has changed is now he has somebody to BLAME IT ON.

    And that's all he ever does.

    Takes credit for the good, blames somebody else for the bad.

    Totally irresponsible.

    Which is why the deficit is so high.

    Clinton shut down the government to balance the budget.

    Now THERE was a noble cause.

    Trump couldn't balance the budget with Republican majorities.
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    "Here's the truth, brothers and sisters, there's plenty of money in the world. Plenty of money in this city, it's just in the wrong hands!”
    Mayor de Blasio Says Wealth Is ‘in the Wrong Hands,’ Pledges to Redistribute It

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/n...e-of-city.html
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    Hello bhaktajan,

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    "Here's the truth, brothers and sisters, there's plenty of money in the world. Plenty of money in this city, it's just in the wrong hands!”
    Mayor de Blasio Says Wealth Is ‘in the Wrong Hands,’ Pledges to Redistribute It

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/n...e-of-city.html
    What good does it do a society to have lots of wealth in the hands of very few people and lots of people without much wealth?

    How is THAT supposed to generate a vibrant economy and widespread prosperity?

    Does extreme wealth inequality = Promoting the General Welfare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello bhaktajan,



    What good does it do a society to have lots of wealth in the hands of very few people and lots of people without much wealth?

    How is THAT supposed to generate a vibrant economy and widespread prosperity?

    Does extreme wealth inequality = Promoting the General Welfare?
    Then you think Cuba & Venezuela & Central America are on the right path?

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    Hello bhaktajan,

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    Then you think Cuba & Venezuela & Central America are on the right path?
    No.

    You didn't answer my question.

    I'll do it for you.

    "What good does it do a society to have lots of wealth in the hands of very few people and lots of people without much wealth?" - No good.

    "How is THAT supposed to generate a vibrant economy and widespread prosperity?" - It won't.

    "Does extreme wealth inequality = Promoting the General Welfare?" - No, it is the opposite.
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    "money doesn't buy happiness but does buy the world's finest $10K/hr escorts" ~ J. Bezos

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    Hello reagansghost,

    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    "money doesn't buy happiness but does buy the world's finest $10K/hr escorts" ~ J. Bezos
    Even he admits it.

    Once you've got your basics covered, plus just a bit extra for fun, you're as happy as you are going to be. More money above this level will not make you any happier.
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    Pretty impressive a discussion on marriage can turn into a discussion on a border wall. I made sure to throw in a border wall reference when I proposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello reagansghost,



    Even he admits it.

    Once you've got your basics covered, plus just a bit extra for fun, you're as happy as you are going to be. More money above this level will not make you any happier.
    It isn’t money that is driving these people. It’s about building the best companies possible, money is just the scorecard.

    Not everyone is wired the same way people like Bezos are and that’s not a bad thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    It isn’t money that is driving these people. It’s about building the best companies possible, money is just the scorecard.

    Not everyone is wired the same way people like Bezos are and that’s not a bad thing
    Well, you can't be a 'company' by yourself. If everybody worked for it and created a great company the results of that should be more equitably shared among those who worked for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Well, you can't be a 'company' by yourself. If everybody worked for it and created a great company the results of that should be more equitably shared among those who worked for it.
    Millions of people can put books into a package. Millions of people can’t create great companies. I don’t have a number but I would guess thousands of Amazon workers are now millionaires. They are getting paid. But you have to be able to create value. Putting books into a package will earn you a paycheck but it won’t make you rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello bhaktajan,



    No.

    You didn't answer my question.

    I'll do it for you.

    "What good does it do a society to have lots of wealth in the hands of very few people and lots of people without much wealth?" - No good.

    "How is THAT supposed to generate a vibrant economy and widespread prosperity?" - It won't.

    "Does extreme wealth inequality = Promoting the General Welfare?" - No, it is the opposite.
    yes i agree...I cited Cuba & Venezuela & Central America etc as examples of such failures.

    Can you provide a prime example of a
    A society has lots of wealth in the hands of very few people and lots of people without much wealth?

    If you can it would be a miserable place like Cuba & Venezuela & Central America etc.


    When you say "A society has lots of wealth in the hands of very few people and lots of people without much wealth?" ---I think of Las Vegas...do you know what it costs to Visit Disneyland?


    :::::::::::::::::::
    Googled "costs to Visit Disneyland?"
    Real world estimates ranged from $200 per person per day
    excluding travel at Disneyland,
    to $3,500 for a five-day trip to Disney World,
    including airfare.Aug 5, 2015

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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Millions of people can put books into a package. Millions of people can’t create great companies. I don’t have a number but I would guess thousands of Amazon workers are now millionaires. They are getting paid. But you have to be able to create value. Putting books into a package will earn you a paycheck but it won’t make you rich
    I understand the current relationship between employers and workers. I understand how Bezos has maximized his leverage on that. And he has done a marvelous job of creating a very profitable organization. Doing that took the work of everybody at Amazon. But their only incentive to work hard is nothing more than fear of losing their meager fixed income. Bezos has them over a barrel and he exploits that. They will work for very little compared to the value their work generates, Bezos pockets the difference. I believe he should share more of the results of that work with the ones whose labor generated it.

    Back in the 60's executives earned 10-15 times the average worker. Now it's like 600 times. And it's headed even higher.

    That's ridiculous. At some point we have to look at the big picture and see how efficient capitalism has become at exploitation.

    Capitalism is a powerful engine of wealth. But it cannot be allowed to run free and wide open. It would destroy the market, destroy society. Like any engine, if allowed to run at full speed it will blow up. It requires regulation. That is government's job. I believe government is not doing it's job here. I believe there should be established a maximum ratio of executive take vs average worker take. If allowed to continue to rise it leads to a run-away situation where the limit is extreme wealth inequality. Completely inefficient. With most wealth in just a few hands, market activity slows down because people don't have much wealth to trade for things.

    Extreme wealth inequality is a danger that pro-capitalists refuse to acknowledge. We are headed there. Economists are hitting alarm bells. Capitalists are as busy looking the other way as their were in 2008.
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