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    Default So when will Fox News finally let Donald Trump's shutdown end?

    By himself, Trump would have backed away from this disaster already. But Fox News is holding the nation hostage

    An endgame for the current government shutdown has been apparent for a while now, if not from the first moment that Donald Trump shuttered much of the federal bureaucracy in an effort to blackmail Congress into giving him money for his border wall.

    Trump gives up the fight and offers some face-saving lie to his base about how the wall is already being built (as he has already claimed), and they pretend to believe him. There's no other way this ends.

    Trump is losing this fight. Polls show that Americans blame him for the shutdown and don't really want his wall. He has very little support from the Republican Party, as evidenced by the fact that the shutdown began when Republicans controlled both house of Congress and still refused to give Trump his border wall money. Even immigration hawks, while saying supportive things in public, aren't willing to go to the mat on this issue because they know it won't do anything to slow down immigration by the people they consider undesirable. This is all over for Trump. It's just a matter of when he admits it.

    In other words, only one question remains: How long will Fox News draw out this shutdown?

    https://www.salon.com/2019/01/09/so-...-shutdown-end/



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    Trump, in addition to everything else is a completely ineffectual president. Thank god. Bush would have given you a right wing scotus judge and a tax cut.
    Trump gets you nothing else, because everyone besides you hillbillies hates his guts. Bush would have gotten you more.


    We will give you NOTHING but scandal and investigations and impeachment hearings. Remember Boner? "Hell no" choke on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    By himself, Trump would have backed away from this disaster already. But Fox News is holding the nation hostage
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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    Nothing short of a terrorist attack or Nancy Pelosi deciding that she is going to have to give in in some fashion if the dems have any chance of legislating is likely to end this matter soon. There is zero reason to re-open the government to "continue the debate" when the democrats have already said there is nothing to debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Nothing short of a terrorist attack or Nancy Pelosi deciding that she is going to have to give in in some fashion if the dems have any chance of legislating is likely to end this matter soon. There is zero reason to re-open the government to "continue the debate" when the democrats have already said there is nothing to debate.
    Now they're reportedly trying to throw immigration reform into the mix. But that's in exchange for far more than the $5B Toadstool is whining about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Now they're reportedly trying to throw immigration reform into the mix. But that's in exchange for far more than the $5B Toadstool is whining about.
    Have no idea who "they" are, but if the government re-opening is contingent on comprehensive immigration reform, the government is about to lose 25% of its workforce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Have no idea who "they" are, but if the government re-opening is contingent on comprehensive immigration reform, the government is about to lose 25% of its workforce.
    Sorry, "they" being the GOP.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/polit...ors/index.html

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    During the election, it came out that Trump was actually a terrible businessman. Now we also know he's a terrible deal-maker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    By himself, Trump would have backed away from this disaster already. But Fox News is holding the nation hostage

    An endgame for the current government shutdown has been apparent for a while now, if not from the first moment that Donald Trump shuttered much of the federal bureaucracy in an effort to blackmail Congress into giving him money for his border wall.

    Trump gives up the fight and offers some face-saving lie to his base about how the wall is already being built (as he has already claimed), and they pretend to believe him. There's no other way this ends.

    Trump is losing this fight. Polls show that Americans blame him for the shutdown and don't really want his wall. He has very little support from the Republican Party, as evidenced by the fact that the shutdown began when Republicans controlled both house of Congress and still refused to give Trump his border wall money. Even immigration hawks, while saying supportive things in public, aren't willing to go to the mat on this issue because they know it won't do anything to slow down immigration by the people they consider undesirable. This is all over for Trump. It's just a matter of when he admits it.

    In other words, only one question remains: How long will Fox News draw out this shutdown?

    https://www.salon.com/2019/01/09/so-...-shutdown-end/


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    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Trump, in addition to everything else is a completely ineffectual president. Thank god. Bush would have given you a right wing scotus judge and a tax cut.
    Trump gets you nothing else, because everyone besides you hillbillies hates his guts. Bush would have gotten you more.


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    well no bush would have given us a clinton presidency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    [SIZE=3][B]By himself, Trump would have backed away from this disaster already. But Fox News is holding the nation hostage

    An endgame for the current government shutdown has been apparent for a while now, if not from the first moment that Donald Trump shuttered much of the federal bureaucracy in an effort to blackmail Congress into giving him money for his border wall.

    Trump gives up the fight and offers some face-saving lie to his base about how the wall is already being built (as he has already claimed), and they pretend to believe him. There's no other way this ends.

    [COLOR=#212529][FONT=roboto]Trump is losing this fight. Polls show that Americans blame him for the shutdown and don't really want his wall. He has very little support from the Republican Party, as evidenced by the fact that the shutdown began when Republicans controlled both house of Congress and still refused to give Trump his border wall money. Even immigration hawks, while saying supportive things in public, aren't willing to go to the mat on this issue because they know it won't do anything to slow down immigration by the people they consider undesirable. This is all over for Trump. It's just a matter of when he admits it.
    In other words, only one question remains: How long will Fox News draw out this shutdown?

    https://www.salon.com/2019/01/09/so-...-shutdown-end/
    I'd say that is partially true, but one could also make the case that the cable networks that lean left keep alive the impeachment possibility, cable is infotainment, and all of them are chasing the dollar

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