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    Default NYC Single Payer, The Laboritory Experiment The Country Needs

    The New York City Mayor made a fantastic move today. He issued a proclamation that provides Single Payer healthcare to every New-Yorker even undocumented residence of the city. I’m cheering him on. That’s exactly what this country needs is a laboratory experiment for the nation to see just how well single payer works and what it cost. I think about 3 Democrat controlled states have already studied single payer for their states and rejected it just for the cost problem. Not to mention how long the waiting times for treatments would be and what the quality of the overloaded service would be if they instituted it.

    I say “GO FOR IT NEW YORK!!!!!”
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    indeed, fuck the working poor by promising the illegal alien horde free shit so they can work under the table pushing out the working poor from getting paid.

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    This is how healthcare was started in Canada. Tommy Douglas started single payer for Saskatchewan and when it showed how much better it was, the country adopted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    This is how healthcare was started in Canada. Tommy Douglas started single payer for Saskatchewan and when it showed how much better it was, the country adopted it.
    Well friend I think you're gonna find out that it's gonna cost 10 times more than the Mayor thinks it's gonna cost an just wait till the doctor's offices get so overloaded it will take months for people to get appointments. What will happen is the folks with private insurance will have to get doctor's appointments out of the city, the city doctors will be underpaid and probably move out of the city. It will be one interesting laboratory experiment. I believe that if they actually make it a true Single Payer program,it will show just how crummy and stupid and expensive Single Payer really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Well friend I think you're gonna find out that it's gonna cost 10 times more than the Mayor thinks it's gonna cost an just wait till the doctor's offices get so overloaded it will take months for people to get appointments. What will happen is the folks with private insurance will have to get doctor's appointments out of the city, the city doctors will be underpaid and probably move out of the city. It will be one interesting laboratory experiment. I believe that if they actually make it a true Single Payer program,it will show just how crummy and stupid and expensive Single Payer really is.
    Well pal you are going to find the healthcare companies will sabotage the shit out of it . They will make it more expensive. Just put Pharm medicines up for competion by price and we can save a ton. But they are in control. Other countries provide medical care for half the price and cover all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Well pal you are going to find the healthcare companies will sabotage the shit out of it . They will make it more expensive. Just put Pharm medicines up for competion by price and we can save a ton. But they are in control. Other countries provide medical care for half the price and cover all.
    I'm not defending the corrupted socialist system now in operation in America friend. There's plenty of room for amending that corrupt system. Single payer isn't one of them! Removing the feds from it would be the best of restoring what was once the best healthcare system on earth before the feds got involved in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    I'm not defending the corrupted socialist system now in operation in America friend. There's plenty of room for amending that corrupt system. Single payer isn't one of them! Removing the feds from it would be the best of restoring what was once the best healthcare system on earth before the feds got involved in it.

    You must be talking about the Veterans Hospitals.. That's government owned and operated, but its very poor and very expensive.
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    Hello Robo,

    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    I'm not defending the corrupted socialist system now in operation in America friend. There's plenty of room for amending that corrupt system. Single payer isn't one of them! Removing the feds from it would be the best of restoring what was once the best healthcare system on earth before the feds got involved in it.
    Just who are "the feds?"

    Are we not a self-governing nation?

    Isn't our government comprised of Americans, chosen from 'We, The People?'

    The way you speak of 'the feds' it sounds like you are talking about some alien enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Well friend I think you're gonna find out that it's gonna cost 10 times more than the Mayor thinks it's gonna cost an just wait till the doctor's offices get so overloaded it will take months for people to get appointments. What will happen is the folks with private insurance will have to get doctor's appointments out of the city, the city doctors will be underpaid and probably move out of the city. It will be one interesting laboratory experiment. I believe that if they actually make it a true Single Payer program,it will show just how crummy and stupid and expensive Single Payer really is.

    Really? Which other country's healthcare have you experienced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Really? Which other country's healthcare have you experienced?
    I've experience this country's healthcare and it's coverage, at least with my personal experience. It's worked fine for ME for a long time. Since I don't give a fuck about you and yours, I don't give a fuck whether you have it or not and if you do, whether it's quality or not. You simply don't matter in my world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    I've experience this country's healthcare and it's coverage, at least with my personal experience. It's worked fine for ME for a long time. Since I don't give a fuck about you and yours, I don't give a fuck whether you have it or not and if you do, whether it's quality or not. You simply don't matter in my world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    This is how healthcare was started in Canada. Tommy Douglas started single payer for Saskatchewan and when it showed how much better it was, the country adopted it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    This is how healthcare was started in Canada. Tommy Douglas started single payer for Saskatchewan and when it showed how much better it was, the country adopted it.
    that would be impressive if people actually lived in Saskatchewan........

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    that would be impressive if people actually lived in Saskatchewan........
    Saskatchewan / Population

    1.098 million
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Saskatchewan / Population

    1.098 million
    thanks for proving my point......just a tad more than Detroit....spread over a few thousand times the space........

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