Excerpts from the Egyptian Book of the Dead.

[Jack]

When Jesus lived Herod had finished his big construction projects and there was a lot of unemployment.. They Jews were fighting each other and the Romans.. Zealots, Herodians, Pharisees, Sadducees, Ziccari and Essenes were fighting each other.. and the Romans.

Jesus KNEW that if they didn't stop, the Romans would destroy them... and they did.

I view 'Christianity' as a Slave Religion. The Philosophy strikes me as 'survival'. Not to mention the concept of a 'Man-God', the 'Miracles', and the idea of 'Resurrection'. If you view it objectively, it's like some Fable a lost Tribe in the upper Amazon would embrace. What's incredulous, you have people in the 21st century thinking it is true and real.

[kudzu]

I view 'Christianity' as a Slave Religion. The Philosophy strikes me as 'survival'. Not to mention the concept of a 'Man-God', the 'Miracles', and the idea of 'Resurrection'. If you view it objectively, it's like some Fable a lost Tribe in the upper Amazon would embrace. What's incredulous, you have people in the 21st century thinking it is true and real.

The idea of being a "slave" is common to both Christianity and Islam. The term used is submission. I don't know about Judaism so much.. although obedience seems to be a theme for them as well.

[Jack]

The idea of being a "slave" is common to both Christianity and Islam. The term used is submission. I don't know about Judaism so much.. although obedience seems to be a theme for them as well.

I'm reading 'The Age of Reason' again.

"The Age of Reason; Being an Investigation of True and Fabulous Theology is a work by English and American political activist Thomas Paine, arguing for the philosophical position of Deism. It follows in the tradition of eighteenth-century British deism, and challenges institutionalized religion and the legitimacy of the Bible. It was published in three parts in 1794, 1795, and 1807."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Reason

He's a Deist, and that's it. He was in a French Prison during the (their) Revolution as he finished writing it.

[Jack]

"n December 1793, he was arrested and was taken to Luxembourg Prison in Paris. While in prison, he continued to work on The Age of Reason (1793–1794). Future President James Monroe used his diplomatic connections to get Paine released in November 1794. He became notorious because of his pamphlets. The Age of Reason, in which he advocated deism, promoted reason and free thought and argued against institutionalized religion in general and Christian doctrine in particular. He published the pamphlet Agrarian Justice (1797), discussing the origins of property and introduced the concept of a guaranteed minimum income. In 1802, he returned to the U.S. where he died on June 8, 1809. Only six people attended his funeral as he had been ostracized for his ridicule of Christianity.[8]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine

[Jack]

from Wiki:


"About his own religious beliefs, Paine wrote in The Age of Reason:"

"I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life."

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church. All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine

[Jack]

"... appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."

hahaha ... that pretty well sums it up.

[evince]

I view 'Christianity' as a Slave Religion. The Philosophy strikes me as 'survival'. Not to mention the concept of a 'Man-God', the 'Miracles', and the idea of 'Resurrection'. If you view it objectively, it's like some Fable a lost Tribe in the upper Amazon would embrace. What's incredulous, you have people in the 21st century thinking it is true and real.

Organized religion ends up having other motivations than true personal belief


at some point Preserving the ORGAIZATION takes priority over belief


people


believe whatever you want

Don't organize and it will remain pure

[kudzu]

I'm reading 'The Age of Reason' again.

"The Age of Reason; Being an Investigation of True and Fabulous Theology is a work by English and American political activist Thomas Paine, arguing for the philosophical position of Deism. It follows in the tradition of eighteenth-century British deism, and challenges institutionalized religion and the legitimacy of the Bible. It was published in three parts in 1794, 1795, and 1807."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Reason

He's a Deist, and that's it. He was in a French Prison during the (their) Revolution as he finished writing it.

I should read Thomas Paine.. Thanks.

[Jack]

I should read Thomas Paine.. Thanks.

His Dad was a Quaker. He had a 'Quaker' leaning. But in the end, the Quakers refused to let him be buried in a Quaker cemetery.

[Jack]

"Thomas Paine’s father was a Quaker and, as John Keane states in his acclaimed definitive biography, ‘Paine’s moral capacities ultimately had religious roots that were to have a lasting impact on his life and, eventually, the political shape of the modern world.’ "
https://thefriend.org/article/thomas...-revolutionary

[Phantasmal]

I should read Thomas Paine.. Thanks.

He is my favorite founding father.

A quote of his for our times:

A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right.

Thomas Paine

[kudzu]

His Dad was a Quaker. He had a 'Quaker' leaning. But in the end, the Quakers refused to let him be buried in a Quaker cemetery.

Really? How awful.. I had no idea.. My maternal grandmother grew up in a Quaker home. I know very little about them.

[Jack]

"Between his birth in 1737 and his death in 1809, enormous political upheavals turned the Western world upside down - and Paine was in the middle of the biggest ones. His writings put his life at risk in every country he lived in - in America for rebellion, in England for sedition, in France for his insistence on a merciful and democratic revolution. At the end of his life, he was shunned by the country he helped create, reviled as an infidel, forced to beg friends for money, denied the right to vote, refused burial in a Quaker cemetery. His grave was desecrated, his remains were stolen."
https://www.wired.com/1995/05/paine/

[Jack]

Really? How awful.. I had no idea.. My maternal grandmother grew up in a Quaker home. I know very little about them.

Yeah, me neither.