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    Default Russian ATTY, Trump Tower mtg, charged, MONEYLAUNDER'G to buy NYC real estate

    She had deep ties to Putin and the oligarchs. Apparently she laundered money for the purposes of buying high end real estate in NYC. Anyone think some of them might be Trump properties? Nahhh...

    (You believe she met with TRUMP JR to discuss ADOPTIONS, right?)


    Veselnitskaya, Russian in Trump Tower Meeting, Is Charged in Case That Shows Kremlin Ties


    Natalia V. Veselnitskaya was charged on Tuesday with seeking to thwart a Justice Department investigation into money
    laundering.
    CreditYury Martyanov/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images


    Natalia V. Veselnitskaya was charged on Tuesday with seeking to thwart a Justice Department investigation into money laundering.
    CreditCreditYury Martyanov/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

    By Benjamin Weiser


    • Jan. 8, 2019

    Natalia V. Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who in 2016 met with Trump campaign officials in Trump Tower, was charged on Tuesday in a separate case that showed her close ties to the Kremlin.

    Ms. Veselnitskaya, a pivotal figure in the investigation into Russian interference in the presidential election, was charged by federal prosecutors in New York with seeking to thwart an earlier Justice Department investigation into money laundering that involved an influential Russian businessman and his investment firm.

    The money-laundering case was not directly related to the Trump Tower meeting. But a federal indictment returned in Manhattan seemed to confirm that Ms. Veselnitskaya had deep ties to senior Russian government officials.

    The charges stem from the Justice Department’s 2013 civil investigation into the role that Ms. Veselnitskaya’s clients — Prevezon Holdings Ltd. and its owner, Denis P. Katsyv — played in a scheme to launder ill-gotten money through New York real estate purchase...


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/n...ndictment.html
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    SEP 2016: Obama asked McConnell to co-write a LETTER of CONDEMNATION of Russian interference
    into the upcoming election and to alert US. The CIA DIR
    had briefed BOTH parties Congr'l leaders of the same.

    McConnell told Brennan,
    “You’re trying to screw the Republican nominee.”

    McCONNELL REFUSED to sign the letter.

    The rest is history!

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    I hope this doesn't turn into, what is perceived as, the Russian Lawyer implicating Trump (and his cronies) into a 'crime' so she gets off with a 'slap on the wrist' sentence.
    This would defeat the entire Mueller probe.

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    Glen Simpson is in on this..

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    dude
    this is an international investigation

    Panama has the trump tower there in their hands because the place got CAUGHT money laundering with the Russians


    the right cant win this


    the world wont play the republican game idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I hope this doesn't turn into, what is perceived as, the Russian Lawyer implicating Trump (and his cronies) into a 'crime' so she gets off with a 'slap on the wrist' sentence.
    This would defeat the entire Mueller probe.
    The FEDs filed it. Southern District of NY. (Remember when he was said to be 'spinning off' parts of the case to other 'jurisdictions'? This could be as a result or blended something they were already working on). All too legalese for me--but I get the gist. Anyway, she converts rubles into $ for NYC real estate for a whole bunch of Russians and she just happened to meet with TRUMP JR?

    That lady needs to STAY HERE. Anyone wanna believe she won't be DEAD if she goes back? Just like the RUSSIAN NRA (supposed) babe! (I'm thinking neither of them can go back)
    Last edited by Centerleftfl; 01-08-2019 at 11:46 AM.
    SEP 2016: Obama asked McConnell to co-write a LETTER of CONDEMNATION of Russian interference
    into the upcoming election and to alert US. The CIA DIR
    had briefed BOTH parties Congr'l leaders of the same.

    McConnell told Brennan,
    “You’re trying to screw the Republican nominee.”

    McCONNELL REFUSED to sign the letter.

    The rest is history!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    The FEDs filed it. Southern District of NY. (Remember when he was said to be 'spinning off' parts of the case to other 'jurisdictions'? This could be as a result or blended into what he was spinning off). All too legalese for me but I get the gist.
    I appreciate the 'spinning off' into different jurisdictions. That's a good strategy.
    My point being, I hope this doesn't have the appearance of 'Natalia' telling the Mueller Team 'what they want to hear' in return for a sweet plea agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Glen Simpson is in on this..
    And why would he be?
    SEP 2016: Obama asked McConnell to co-write a LETTER of CONDEMNATION of Russian interference
    into the upcoming election and to alert US. The CIA DIR
    had briefed BOTH parties Congr'l leaders of the same.

    McConnell told Brennan,
    “You’re trying to screw the Republican nominee.”

    McCONNELL REFUSED to sign the letter.

    The rest is history!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I appreciate the 'spinning off' into different jurisdictions. That's a good strategy.
    My point being, I hope this doesn't have the appearance of 'Natalia' telling the Mueller Team 'what they want to hear' in return for a sweet plea agreement.
    Think about it. Is she obstructing because she is still tethered to Moscow? Or is she obstructing because she doesn't dare get sent 'home'? Weirdly, I think either could be the case. I think if she wants to stay here, she better play ball.

    (You know, I keep waiting for a DEAD Russian to show up here. I'm serious as a heart attack).
    Last edited by Centerleftfl; 01-08-2019 at 11:47 AM.
    SEP 2016: Obama asked McConnell to co-write a LETTER of CONDEMNATION of Russian interference
    into the upcoming election and to alert US. The CIA DIR
    had briefed BOTH parties Congr'l leaders of the same.

    McConnell told Brennan,
    “You’re trying to screw the Republican nominee.”

    McCONNELL REFUSED to sign the letter.

    The rest is history!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I hope this doesn't turn into, what is perceived as, the Russian Lawyer implicating Trump (and his cronies) into a 'crime' so she gets off with a 'slap on the wrist' sentence.
    This would defeat the entire Mueller probe.
    Veselnitskaya is not in the US and she won't be coming any time soon.

    "Ms. Veselnitskaya, 43, is believed to be in Russia, according to the United States attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/n...ndictment.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Veselnitskaya is not in the US and she won't be coming any time soon.

    "Ms. Veselnitskaya, 43, is believed to be in Russia, according to the United States attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/n...ndictment.html
    Thanks, you beat me to it.
    That’s why I’m so screwed up, because I had a father who pushed me so hard,” Trump acknowledged in 2007, in a brief and rare moment of self-awareness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    She had deep ties to Putin and the oligarchs. Apparently she laundered money for the purposes of buying high end real estate in NYC. Anyone think some of them might be Trump properties? Nahhh...

    (You believe she met with TRUMP JR to discuss ADOPTIONS, right?)

    Veselnitskaya, Russian in Trump Tower Meeting, Is Charged in Case That Shows Kremlin Ties


    Natalia V. Veselnitskaya was charged on Tuesday with seeking to thwart a Justice Department investigation into money
    laundering. CreditYury Martyanov/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images


    Natalia V. Veselnitskaya was charged on Tuesday with seeking to thwart a Justice Department investigation into money launderiing
    CreditCreditYury Martyanov/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

    By Benjamin Weiser


    • Jan. 8, 2019

    Natalia V. Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who in 2016 met with Trump campaign officials in Trump Tower, was charged on Tuesday in a separate case that showed her close ties to the Kremlin.

    Ms. Veselnitskaya, a pivotal figure in the investigation into Russian interference in the presidential election, was charged by federal prosecutors in New York with seeking to thwart an earlier Justice Department investigation into money laundering that involved an influential Russian businessman and his investment firm.

    The money-laundering case was not directly related to the Trump Tower meeting. But a federal indictment returned in Manhattan seemed to confirm that Ms. Veselnitskaya had deep ties to senior Russian government officials.

    The charges stem from the Justice Department’s 2013 civil investigation into the role that Ms. Veselnitskaya’s clients — Prevezon Holdings Ltd. and its owner, Denis P. Katsyv — played in a scheme to launder ill-gotten money through New York real estate purchase...
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/n...ndictment.html
    You brought attention to the wrong things. I fixed that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Veselnitskaya is not in the US and she won't be coming any time soon.

    "Ms. Veselnitskaya, 43, is believed to be in Russia, according to the United States attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/n...ndictment.html
    MY BAD!! I thought they told her not to leave or something along those lines. You're right I can't imagine we'll see her again. Maybe I'm mixing her up with the 'other' one.

    PS Anyone know WHEN she left? Was she called, whether she showed or not, in front of the House or Senate?

    PSS Here's one for you, I don't have a clue, can WE hold someone here or tell them not to leave, if here on a VISA if they haven't been charged? Remember there was something 'goofy' about her VISA. She tried and failed several times to get one. Something along those lines.
    Last edited by Centerleftfl; 01-08-2019 at 12:44 PM.
    SEP 2016: Obama asked McConnell to co-write a LETTER of CONDEMNATION of Russian interference
    into the upcoming election and to alert US. The CIA DIR
    had briefed BOTH parties Congr'l leaders of the same.

    McConnell told Brennan,
    “You’re trying to screw the Republican nominee.”

    McCONNELL REFUSED to sign the letter.

    The rest is history!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    You brought attention to the wrong things. I fixed that for you.
    Nope, that one I did NOT mix up! Kinda my point in the first sentence. Maybe I was trying to be too 'cute'?

    She had deep ties to Putin and the oligarchs. Apparently she laundered money for the purposes of buying high end real estate in NYC. Anyone think some of them might be Trump properties? Nahhh...
    SEP 2016: Obama asked McConnell to co-write a LETTER of CONDEMNATION of Russian interference
    into the upcoming election and to alert US. The CIA DIR
    had briefed BOTH parties Congr'l leaders of the same.

    McConnell told Brennan,
    “You’re trying to screw the Republican nominee.”

    McCONNELL REFUSED to sign the letter.

    The rest is history!

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    Donald Trump arranged financing for the project from the investment bank Bear Stearns - a $230 million bond offering[11] - for which he received a $2.2 million commission.[10][12] During the financing, Ivanka Trump falsely claimed that over 90% of the units had been sold, and that their sale price was five times that of comparable units.[10][13] Ivanka Trump also exaggerated demand for the units, claiming in 2009 they were selling out even as potential buyers were being offered substantial discounts.[10][14] During the development, Donald Trump falsely implied that the Trump Organization had a financial stake in the project, and that it was acting as the developer, neither of which were true.[10]

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