Whatever Happened To That GoFundMe For The Wall Of Shame? Fell A Bit Short?

[PoliTalker]

Hello Kacper,

It must sting that

You seem to have me confused with a hater. I love my fellow Americans. I love my country. I love being a human in this world.

1) Conservatives can use the internet effectively for fundraising;

I'm not sure why that would be bothersome. It only makes sense. Conservatives are people. People use the internet for lots of things.

2) 350K or so people think it is important enough of an issue to donate to it;

That represents about .001 of America. It is only logical that with a nation this large, there are going to be a small percentage of those who wish to buck the system.

3) the first female President will be a republican.

Doubtful. Republicans don't seem to be very good at electing women. And worse, 3 of them recently switched parties and became Democrats in Kansas.

[PoliTalker]

Gofundme has stringent guidelines. Money raised MUST go to the intended recipient for the intended reason.

He's already talking about refunds.

Too funny.

[Sirthinksalot]

Right! All they have to do is keep that up for another 50 years and they can build the wall.

Oh wait, it could take another 50 years of litigation to get the land to build it on.

That's it! It can be the Hundred Years Wall.

Hello Sirthinksalot.

Very impressive! At that rate (do keep it up, and up, and up, and up,) the movement will raise the entire $5.6 Billion for the 1/5th of the 27 Billion needed for the whole (well not really a complete wall) thing in just a very short time.

Keep on paying in.

If I have my math correct, at that rate it will take just 15.3 years.

For the lower figure of 5.6 Billion.

(Not the originally proposed 27 Billion.)

(which still doesn't even build a complete wall)

No serious person is claiming the GoFundMe campaign is going to pay for the wall. It's making a statement that people will put their own money where their mouth is concerning the wall. Why don't you start a GoFundMe to pay for "Medicare for all" and see how close you get?

[Sirthinksalot]

I'm actually curious if anyone here has donated, and if so, how much?

Not me, but I did write a check to the NRA last month.

[Sirthinksalot]

Hey, almost there. Almost up to the $5.6 Billion.

Only need $5.598 Billion more.

LOL

It's actually 5.5805 billion, if you subtract 19.5 million from 5.6 billion.

[Sirthinksalot]

Gofundme has stringent guidelines. Money raised MUST go to the intended recipient for the intended reason.

He's already talking about refunds.

But will GoFundMe still keep their cut?

[PoliTalker]

Hello Sirthinksalot,

No serious person is claiming the GoFundMe campaign is going to pay for the wall. It's making a statement that people will put their own money where their mouth is concerning the wall. Why don't you start a GoFundMe to pay for "Medicare for all" and see how close you get?

It is not necessary to pursue government goals outside of government. If the nation should do something, the correct way to accomplish it is to win the national argument and allow our self-government to work the way it is designed to work. That's why the right is losing the wall argument. It's not something the nation should do. It only appeals to the hateful, and it is old ineffective technology. We don't build castles with moats any more and we don't need border walls.

Trump argues drugs and terrorists are pouring over the border, but the fact is that most of that activity enters through gates and aboard ships, trucks and planes. Drugs are not pouring in across the desert or being carried by migrants escaping gang violence. Actually, most of the drugs responsible for our devastating drug problem are manufactured by our pharmaceutical industry.

A wall is not the answer to the drug problem. Legalizing all drugs is. And that will also remove the profits from the gangs. Two birds with one stone.

Legalize all drugs and create a vast network of rehab centers. Treating drug abuse as a crime is the wrong approach. We need to treat it as the medical/mental problem that it is. Reagan's war on drugs was a failure. 'Just say no' was a failure. Increased sentencing and mandatory sentencing was a failure. None of it worked. All that did was cost us a lot of money and lives. It's time for a radical new approach. Legalize everything. Engage in a mass public awareness campaign. Let everyone know drugs are not the answer to their problems. Address those problems. Address poverty effectively. Address physical abuse. Deal with racism and repression of blacks, Open up opportunity. Vast swaths of the nation are foolishly written off from capitalism. All that vast untapped potential is wasted. We need really good effective education, preschool and compassion for the underadvantaged. These people can produce if we give them a fair chance. That is a bigger challenge than keeping government out of the market and allowing capitalism to bypass the challenging ghetto market, only to gravitate to the easy money in the 'burbs. That doesn't serve society. The proper mix of socialism and capitalism will. We have the potential for vast numbers of extremely intelligent engineers, doctors, scientists, innovators, leaders, all being wasted because we hate the poor and blame them for their own condition. How stupid of us. We need to stop viewing this as a problem and realize it is actually an opportunity.

[Althea]

No serious person is claiming the GoFundMe campaign is going to pay for the wall. It's making a statement that people will put their own money where their mouth is concerning the wall. Why don't you start a GoFundMe to pay for "Medicare for all" and see how close you get?

Because it's illegal. Duh.

[Althea]

But will GoFundMe still keep their cut?

Stay tuned

[PoliTalker]

Hello Sirthinksalot,

But will GoFundMe still keep their cut?

Of course. They are capitalists. They do what they do for profit. What do you think? They CARE about people?

LOL