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Thread: World's greatest churches

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    "The kingdom of Heaven is within you"
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Using my old Catholic eye - we like exuberant architecture.
    I personally see nothing wrong with baroque religious art/icons, if that is what appeals to you
    I really like the old stone Catholic cathedrals.

    I have a butt load of religious icons in my icon corner at home.

    As appealing as I find stone work, I saw a show last night on Norwegian stave churches. Staves are ancient wooden cathedrals from the 11th and 12th century, and the Norwegians used wood rather than stone -- maybe for cultural reasons, but also probably because they did not have the right kind of local stone materials.

    In my opinion, these stave churches are just bloody cool!

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    This cathedral is unlikely to make any professor's top 20 list of world's greatest churches - but this photo of the nave reminds me why I hold my family's traditional orthodox cathedral in the highest esteem. This place is just bloody awesome, to me!

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    Probably not on any professor's top twenty list, but a sentimental favorite of mine because this historic Russian orthodox church is in the city where my grandparents and parents lived and were born.

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    Cause turkey is still there.. Should be returned to the Greeks..
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    nice churches are everywhere, here is St Annes in Detroit, http://www.detroit1701.org/St.%20Ann...l#.XQaB0LzYrnE The corpse of Gabriel Richard was kept in a glass coffin in a back room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I wonder what Jesus would say upon seeing these things?
    Praise God from whom all blessings flow or words to that effect.
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    Hagia Sophia is stunning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Praise God from whom all blessings flow or words to that effect.
    I always thought of Jesus as a humble man. One that wasn't a Materialist but more a Spiritualist. I'm not sure he would endorse 'Shiny Objects' with His name upon them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I always thought of Jesus as a humble man. One that wasn't a Materialist but more a Spiritualist. I'm not sure he would endorse 'Shiny Objects' with His name upon them?
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    R.I.P. Johnny Cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I always thought of Jesus as a humble man. One that wasn't a Materialist but more a Spiritualist. I'm not sure he would endorse 'Shiny Objects' with His name upon them?
    He went to Temple, went so far as to run off money changers who were disrespecting it.
    While he did not care for pretense as piety, he was clear in that he was good with the church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    He went to Temple, went so far as to run off money changers who were disrespecting it.
    While he did not care for pretense as piety, he was clear in that he was good with the church.
    I wasn't there, I'll take your word for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I always thought of Jesus as a humble man. One that wasn't a Materialist but more a Spiritualist. I'm not sure he would endorse 'Shiny Objects' with His name upon them?
    Hagia Sophia has not been a Christian church for over 500 years, and what you see in the interior today is probably re-decoration ordered by the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire in the 19th century.

    The classical Byzantine architectural elements - which I think are beautiful and stunning - speak to the church's origins as the the patriarchal cathedral of Eastern Orthodoxy. I do not think Jesus would become irate at beautiful stonework, impressive engineering, and glorious architectural designs.

    While I agree with you that Jesus might not appreciate ostentatious displays of treasure and bling, I cannot say I have ever seen jewel-encrusted statues, idols of solid gold, or piles of rubies, diamonds, and emeralds in any Orthodox or Catholic church I have ever been in. I do not think Jesus would be outraged by paintings, symbolic sculpture, floral arrangements, or beautifully rendered crosses and stained glass.

    Russian icons are just blocks of wood, painstakingly painted with religious themes by skilled artisans. That is fairly pure and simple when you really think about it.

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