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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    Nice try "copy," well, actually it isn't, seen it all before, but your Obama's "whataboutism" did not include a "big, beautiful, tremendout, thirty foot high, concrete reinforced Wall"
    How do you know that, anchovies, since the design and construction materials that Obama favored aren't mentioned in the article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Just kind of curious, who advised the Democrats when they thought it was a great idea.
    Was any democrat supporting a 2,000 mile wall made of concrete? Please tell us who

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Archives, who suggested to the Democrats that building a wall on our southern border was a great idea? Obviously they were all for it.
    In addition to the 2013 bill that DEMOCRAT Shutdown Schumer sponsored and voted for, take a look at this:



    Clinton, Obama, Schumer, Boxer, Feinstein, Biden voted YEA



    On October 26, 2006, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367) into law stating, “This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure."

    The bill was introduced on Sep. 13, 2006 by Peter T. King (R-NY).

    In the House of Representatives, the Fence Act passed 283–138 on September 14, 2006.

    On September 29, 2006 – the Fence Act passed in the Senate 80–19.


    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Was any democrat supporting a 2,000 mile wall made of concrete? Please tell us who
    It makes no difference what a barrier is made out of. Not for this discussion anyway. It is the principle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floriduhfan View Post
    Was any democrat supporting a 2,000 mile wall made of concrete? Please tell us who
    None that I know of, because they don't want to stop illegals from walking around partial fences. IMO.

    Would you support a steel fence spanning the entire southern border?

    Answer me, cum gargler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    In addition to the 2013 bill that DEMOCRAT Shutdown Schumer sponsored and voted for, take a look at this:



    Clinton, Obama, Schumer, Boxer, Feinstein, Biden voted YEA



    On October 26, 2006, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367) into law stating, “This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure."

    The bill was introduced on Sep. 13, 2006 by Peter T. King (R-NY).

    In the House of Representatives, the Fence Act passed 283–138 on September 14, 2006.

    On September 29, 2006 – the Fence Act passed in the Senate 80–19.


    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262
    Dems rely on their constituents having very short attention spans. In all honesty it works to keep them in office!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    It makes no difference what a barrier is made out of. Not for this discussion anyway. It is the principle.
    Obama used to want illegal immigration to stop, so did Hillary, so did Blowjob Bill, and so did Shutdown Schumer.


    Or so they said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Dems rely on their constituents having very short attention spans. In all honesty it works to keep them in office!
    I suspect that they rely on the ability of their constituents to employ highly selective situational ethics, too, Cap'n.

    Shutdown Schumer's 2013 Border Security Act, the "Southern Border Fencing Strategy" included $8 billion for "border fencing."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Security,_Economic_Opportunity,_and_Immigra tion_Modernization_Act_of_2013#Title_I_-_Border_Security

    Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013

    Sponsored by Shutdown Schumer (D-NY)


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Security,_Economic_Opportunity,_and_Immigra tion_Modernization_Act_of_2013#Title_I_-_Border_Security

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    It makes no difference what a barrier is made out of. Not for this discussion anyway. It is the principle.
    If you want to believe exactly what trump has said all along, then it does make a difference, just like saying that Mexico would pay for the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    There is no "crisis".. no national emergency.. Trump just likes to get the mob all worked up.
    The concept of the Wall did not click right away with the candidate. “Initially, Trump seemed indifferent to the idea,” writes Green. “But in January 2015, he tried it out at the Iowa Freedom Summit ... ‘One of his pledges was, ‘I will build a Wall,’ and the place just went nuts,’ said Nunberg. Warming to the concept, Trump waited a beat and then added a flourish that brought down the house. ‘Nobody,’ he said, ‘builds like Trump.’”
    . . .

    The idea for building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border came from political consultants seeking a way to keep Donald Trump’s mind focused on illegal immigration. A reasonable observer might ask if that is a good reason for a wall to be the basis of U.S. immigration policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    If you want to believe exactly what trump has said all along, then it does make a difference, just like saying that Mexico would pay for the wall.
    Think outside the box. Democrats used to be very good at that. It would nice if they got back to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillizers in Equines View Post
    The concept of the Wall did not click right away with the candidate. “Initially, Trump seemed indifferent to the idea,” writes Green. “But in January 2015, he tried it out at the Iowa Freedom Summit ... ‘One of his pledges was, ‘I will build a Wall,’ and the place just went nuts,’ said Nunberg. Warming to the concept, Trump waited a beat and then added a flourish that brought down the house. ‘Nobody,’ he said, ‘builds like Trump.’”
    . . .The idea for building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border came from political consultants seeking a way to keep Donald Trump’s mind focused on illegal immigration. A reasonable observer might ask if that is a good reason for a wall to be the basis of U.S. immigration policy.
    Was it a good idea when DEMOCRATS voted for a border fence (that hasn't worked very well)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Think outside the box. Democrats used to be very good at that. It would nice if they got back to it.
    You are playing games, its time to man up to what trump has promised since day one, you aint gonna sweep it under the rug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    The concept of the Wall did not click right away with the candidate. “Initially, Trump seemed indifferent to the idea,” writes Green. “But in January 2015, he tried it out at the Iowa Freedom Summit ... ‘One of his pledges was, ‘I will build a Wall,’ and the place just went nuts,’ said Nunberg. Warming to the concept, Trump waited a beat and then added a flourish that brought down the house. ‘Nobody,’ he said, ‘builds like Trump.’”
    . . .

    The idea for building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border came from political consultants seeking a way to keep Donald Trump’s mind focused on illegal immigration. A reasonable observer might ask if that is a good reason for a wall to be the basis of U.S. immigration policy.
    The idea for the wall came from Roger Stone who wanted a buzzword for Trump to repeat and expound on.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    You are playing games, its time to man up to what trump has promised since day one, you aint gonna sweep it under the rug.
    The only ones playing games here are those focusing on minutia instead of what something actually accomplishes. Democrats wanted barriers to keep people out of this country long before Trump. Fact is fact.

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