Members banned from this thread: Truth Detector and CFM


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 25

Thread: Is Trump merely a low-intellect boob or is he a Russian stooge doing Putin's bidding?

  1. #1 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    12,327
    Thanks
    4,152
    Thanked 5,962 Times in 3,893 Posts
    Groans
    848
    Groaned 624 Times in 582 Posts

    Default Is Trump merely a low-intellect boob or is he a Russian stooge doing Putin's bidding?

    Sadly, this is a question that nobody can really answer with any degree of certainty.

    This is the reality in the era of Trump.

    ************************************

    Trump defends Soviet Union's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan
    By Zachary Cohen, CNN

    Updated 10:50 AM ET, Fri January 4, 2019

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/03/polit...ion/index.html

    Washington (CNN) - During his freewheeling, 90-minute cabinet meeting Wednesday, President Donald Trump briefly argued that the Soviet Union "was right" to invade Afghanistan in 1979 because "terrorists were going into Russia," a head-scratching aside that was widely criticized as historically inaccurate.

    "Russia used to be the Soviet Union. Afghanistan made it Russia because they went bankrupt fighting in Afghanistan. Russia. So you take a look at other countries. Pakistan is there. They should be fighting," Trump said.

    "But Russia should be fighting. The reason Russia was in, in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there. The problem is it was a tough fight. And literally they went bankrupt. They went into being called Russia again as opposed to the Soviet Union," he added.

    The Wall Street Journal editorial board reacted strongly to Trump's comments in an op-ed Friday: "Right to be there? We cannot recall a more absurd misstatement of history by an American President. The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan with three divisions in December 1979 to prop up a fellow communist government."

    The Soviet Union, which was comprised of Russia and several now independent Eastern European and Asian nations, did in fact invade Afghanistan amid Cold War tensions with the US.

    But Trump's assertion that Russia was "right to be there" conflicts with the fact that the US strongly opposed the invasion and supported the guerilla insurgency that ultimately forced the Soviets to leave in 1988.

    His claim that the incursion was a response to "terrorists going into Russia" also diverges with what the US believed, that it was part of the Soviet effort to spread communism.

    The Kremlin's bloody nine-year campaign to support the Marxist government in Kabul cost the lives of more than 14,000 troops and hit the Soviet economy before its 100,000-strong army was forced into a humiliating withdrawal.

    While the Soviet economy did ultimately collapse, it did not go bankrupt, contrary to Trump's claim. Additionally, that collapse was not solely caused by the invasion into Afghanistan but rather a myriad of factors, including systemic issues within the Soviet Union's communist economy.

    Trump has long been critical of the US' own presence in Afghanistan, which began after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and his latest comments come as the US military has been ordered to begin planning to withdraw about half the troops in from the country.

    That decision was made last month, at the same time as Trump's decision to withdraw the US military from Syria -- moves that precipitated Defense Secretary James Mattis' resignation announcement.
    Trump criticized Mattis during Wednesday's meeting, specifically mentioning his handling of Afghanistan.

    "What's he done for me? How has he done in Afghanistan? Not too good. Not too good. I'm not happy with what he's done in Afghanistan and I shouldn't be happy," Trump said.

    The US has about 14,000 troops in Afghanistan, most of which are present as part of a larger NATO-led mission to train, advise and assist Afghan forces. Any withdrawal would be complicated by the fact that the United States is part of NATO's Resolute Support mission.

    ************************************************** ***********

    It is impossible to say whether Trump's comments were made out of simple ignorance of (among so MANY other things) history, or if he is just saying what his handlers in Moscow are telling him to.

    One thing is certain... Trump is undeniably the biggest fucking boob, rube, con man and pathological liar to ever occupy the WH. The question remains regarding his fealty to and possible control by the Russian government.

    GW Bush was a rocket scientist/brain surgeon/"nuculer"- astro physicist compared to Trump.

    His election stands as a testament to what can happen when mass numbers of easily fooled idiots get together and vote.

    Simply amazing.
    Last edited by Nomad; 01-06-2019 at 10:14 AM.

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Nomad For This Post:

    evince (01-06-2019), guno (01-06-2019)

  3. #2 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    9,289
    Thanks
    5,115
    Thanked 3,042 Times in 2,353 Posts
    Groans
    182
    Groaned 233 Times in 222 Posts

    Default

    Can Trump be both?

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Jack For This Post:

    guno (01-06-2019), Nomad (01-06-2019)

  5. #3 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Posts
    5,375
    Thanks
    717
    Thanked 2,843 Times in 1,829 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 192 Times in 182 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    Seems to me he's the low IQ scion of a Bronx swindler who stupidly went to the Russian mob, and by extension Putin, for desperately needed cash after he blew the rest of Fred's money on Atlantic City boondoggles

    oh and he never intended to actually win the 2016 election, we can all see why now

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to reagansghost For This Post:

    guno (01-06-2019), Nomad (01-06-2019)

  7. #4 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    12,327
    Thanks
    4,152
    Thanked 5,962 Times in 3,893 Posts
    Groans
    848
    Groaned 624 Times in 582 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Can Trump be both?
    Yes, and I meant to express that possibility in the OP.

    Probably some combination of the two.

  8. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Nomad For This Post:

    evince (01-06-2019), guno (01-06-2019), Jack (01-06-2019)

  9. #5 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    2,003
    Thanks
    481
    Thanked 1,122 Times in 694 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 42 Times in 41 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Sadly, this is a question that nobody can really answer with any degree of certainty.

    This is the reality in the era of Trump.

    ************************************

    Trump defends Soviet Union's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan
    By Zachary Cohen, CNN

    Updated 10:50 AM ET, Fri January 4, 2019

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/03/polit...ion/index.html

    Washington (CNN)During his freewheeling, 90-minute cabinet meeting Wednesday, President Donald Trump briefly argued that the Soviet Union "was right" to invade Afghanistan in 1979 because "terrorists were going into Russia," a head-scratching aside that was widely criticized as historically inaccurate.

    "Russia used to be the Soviet Union. Afghanistan made it Russia because they went bankrupt fighting in Afghanistan. Russia. So you take a look at other countries. Pakistan is there. They should be fighting," Trump said.

    "But Russia should be fighting. The reason Russia was in, in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there. The problem is it was a tough fight. And literally they went bankrupt. They went into being called Russia again as opposed to the Soviet Union," he added.

    The Wall Street Journal editorial board reacted strongly to Trump's comments in an op-ed Friday: "Right to be there? We cannot recall a more absurd misstatement of history by an American President. The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan with three divisions in December 1979 to prop up a fellow communist government."

    The Soviet Union, which was comprised of Russia and several now independent Eastern European and Asian nations, did in fact invade Afghanistan amid Cold War tensions with the US.

    But Trump's assertion that Russia was "right to be there" conflicts with the fact that the US strongly opposed the invasion and supported the guerilla insurgency that ultimately forced the Soviets to leave in 1988.

    His claim that the incursion was a response to "terrorists going into Russia" also diverges with what the US believed, that it was part of the Soviet effort to spread communism.

    The Kremlin's bloody nine-year campaign to support the Marxist government in Kabul cost the lives of more than 14,000 troops and hit the Soviet economy before its 100,000-strong army was forced into a humiliating withdrawal.

    While the Soviet economy did ultimately collapse, it did not go bankrupt, contrary to Trump's claim. Additionally, that collapse was not solely caused by the invasion into Afghanistan but rather a myriad of factors, including systemic issues within the Soviet Union's communist economy.

    Trump has long been critical of the US' own presence in Afghanistan, which began after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and his latest comments come as the US military has been ordered to begin planning to withdraw about half the troops in from the country.

    That decision was made last month, at the same time as Trump's decision to withdraw the US military from Syria -- moves that precipitated Defense Secretary James Mattis' resignation announcement.
    Trump criticized Mattis during Wednesday's meeting, specifically mentioning his handling of Afghanistan.

    "What's he done for me? How has he done in Afghanistan? Not too good. Not too good. I'm not happy with what he's done in Afghanistan and I shouldn't be happy," Trump said.

    The US has about 14,000 troops in Afghanistan, most of which are present as part of a larger NATO-led mission to train, advise and assist Afghan forces. Any withdrawal would be complicated by the fact that the United States is part of NATO's Resolute Support mission.

    ************************************************** ***********

    It is impossible to say whether Trump's comments were made out of simple ignorance of (among so MANY other things) history, or if he is just saying what his handlers in Moscow are telling him to.

    One thing is certain... Trump is undeniably the biggest fucking boob, rube, con man and pathological liar to ever occupy the WH. The question remains regarding his fealty to and possible control by the Russian government.

    GW Bush was a rocket scientist/brain surgeon/"nuculer"- astro physicist compared to Trump.

    His election stands as a testament to what can happen when mass numbers of easily fooled idiots get together and vote.

    Simply amazing.
    The answer to your question is a resounding:

    YES

    It's disconcerting to realize that there are so many fucking morons in America who voted for this Fucking Moron.
    The truth hardly has a chance against a lie that people want to believe

  10. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to DonaldvoTrumpovich For This Post:

    evince (01-06-2019), guno (01-06-2019), Nomad (01-06-2019)

  11. #6 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    9,289
    Thanks
    5,115
    Thanked 3,042 Times in 2,353 Posts
    Groans
    182
    Groaned 233 Times in 222 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Yes, and I meant to express that possibility in the OP.

    Probably some combination of the two.
    Thanks. I feel better now.

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to Jack For This Post:

    Nomad (01-06-2019)

  13. #7 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    22,563
    Thanks
    7,231
    Thanked 9,144 Times in 4,547 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 422 Times in 411 Posts

    Default

    Is Trump merely a low-intellect boob or is he a Russian stooge doing Putin's bidding?
    Sadly, this is a question that nobody can really answer with any degree of certainty.

    This is the reality in the era of Trump.
    ************************************
    Trump defends Soviet Union's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan
    By Zachary Cohen, CNN
    I do not think it is just Trump that can be singled out.

    The modern Republican party appears to be pro-Kremlin at this point. And in the thrall of Putin and Russian state intelligence services.
    I mean, the NRA is basically an asset for Russian state security services.
    And plenty of Republicans in cyberspace and on this board have welcomed Putin's assistance in getting Trump elected. "Collusion is not a crime!"

  14. The Following User Groans At Cypress For This Awful Post:

    Havana Moon (01-06-2019)

  15. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Cypress For This Post:

    evince (01-06-2019), guno (01-06-2019), Nomad (01-06-2019), reagansghost (01-06-2019)

  16. #8 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    20,492
    Thanks
    5,584
    Thanked 2,435 Times in 2,073 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 172 Times in 170 Posts

    Default


  17. #9 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    12,327
    Thanks
    4,152
    Thanked 5,962 Times in 3,893 Posts
    Groans
    848
    Groaned 624 Times in 582 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I bet you and your fellow Trumptardians are tirelessly learning and practicing that song everyday so when Trump and Putin's plans for the Russian takeover come to fruition, you can be the first ones standing on the street corners, singing it at the tops of your lungs while giving the Russian salute, as the tanks with their new Russian flag emblems freshly painted over the former stars and stripes, go rolling by.

  18. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Nomad For This Post:

    evince (01-06-2019), guno (01-06-2019), reagansghost (01-06-2019)

  19. #10 | Top
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    25,510
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 2 Times in 2 Posts

    Default


  20. #11 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    8,925
    Thanks
    3,510
    Thanked 8,514 Times in 4,309 Posts
    Groans
    324
    Groaned 664 Times in 571 Posts

    Default


  21. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to signalmankenneth For This Post:

    evince (01-06-2019), guno (01-06-2019), Nomad (01-06-2019)

  22. #12 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    41,528
    Thanks
    52,355
    Thanked 22,325 Times in 14,844 Posts
    Groans
    1,587
    Groaned 1,729 Times in 1,645 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Sadly, this is a question that nobody can really answer with any degree of certainty.

    This is the reality in the era of Trump.

    ************************************

    Trump defends Soviet Union's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan
    By Zachary Cohen, CNN

    Updated 10:50 AM ET, Fri January 4, 2019

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/03/polit...ion/index.html

    Washington (CNN) - During his freewheeling, 90-minute cabinet meeting Wednesday, President Donald Trump briefly argued that the Soviet Union "was right" to invade Afghanistan in 1979 because "terrorists were going into Russia," a head-scratching aside that was widely criticized as historically inaccurate.

    "Russia used to be the Soviet Union. Afghanistan made it Russia because they went bankrupt fighting in Afghanistan. Russia. So you take a look at other countries. Pakistan is there. They should be fighting," Trump said.

    "But Russia should be fighting. The reason Russia was in, in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there. The problem is it was a tough fight. And literally they went bankrupt. They went into being called Russia again as opposed to the Soviet Union," he added.

    The Wall Street Journal editorial board reacted strongly to Trump's comments in an op-ed Friday: "Right to be there? We cannot recall a more absurd misstatement of history by an American President. The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan with three divisions in December 1979 to prop up a fellow communist government."

    The Soviet Union, which was comprised of Russia and several now independent Eastern European and Asian nations, did in fact invade Afghanistan amid Cold War tensions with the US.

    But Trump's assertion that Russia was "right to be there" conflicts with the fact that the US strongly opposed the invasion and supported the guerilla insurgency that ultimately forced the Soviets to leave in 1988.

    His claim that the incursion was a response to "terrorists going into Russia" also diverges with what the US believed, that it was part of the Soviet effort to spread communism.

    The Kremlin's bloody nine-year campaign to support the Marxist government in Kabul cost the lives of more than 14,000 troops and hit the Soviet economy before its 100,000-strong army was forced into a humiliating withdrawal.

    While the Soviet economy did ultimately collapse, it did not go bankrupt, contrary to Trump's claim. Additionally, that collapse was not solely caused by the invasion into Afghanistan but rather a myriad of factors, including systemic issues within the Soviet Union's communist economy.

    Trump has long been critical of the US' own presence in Afghanistan, which began after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and his latest comments come as the US military has been ordered to begin planning to withdraw about half the troops in from the country.

    That decision was made last month, at the same time as Trump's decision to withdraw the US military from Syria -- moves that precipitated Defense Secretary James Mattis' resignation announcement.
    Trump criticized Mattis during Wednesday's meeting, specifically mentioning his handling of Afghanistan.

    "What's he done for me? How has he done in Afghanistan? Not too good. Not too good. I'm not happy with what he's done in Afghanistan and I shouldn't be happy," Trump said.

    The US has about 14,000 troops in Afghanistan, most of which are present as part of a larger NATO-led mission to train, advise and assist Afghan forces. Any withdrawal would be complicated by the fact that the United States is part of NATO's Resolute Support mission.

    ************************************************** ***********

    It is impossible to say whether Trump's comments were made out of simple ignorance of (among so MANY other things) history, or if he is just saying what his handlers in Moscow are telling him to.

    One thing is certain... Trump is undeniably the biggest fucking boob, rube, con man and pathological liar to ever occupy the WH. The question remains regarding his fealty to and possible control by the Russian government.

    GW Bush was a rocket scientist/brain surgeon/"nuculer"- astro physicist compared to Trump.

    His election stands as a testament to what can happen when mass numbers of easily fooled idiots get together and vote.

    Simply amazing.
    It’s being investigated where he is getting his Russian propaganda from.
    That’s why I’m so screwed up, because I had a father who pushed me so hard,” Trump acknowledged in 2007, in a brief and rare moment of self-awareness.

  23. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Phantasmal For This Post:

    evince (01-06-2019), guno (01-06-2019), Nomad (01-06-2019)

  24. #13 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Posts
    2,481
    Thanks
    565
    Thanked 1,546 Times in 1,000 Posts
    Groans
    21
    Groaned 30 Times in 29 Posts

    Default

    Obviously much of what passes for Trump's thinking comes from RW trash sites, and some of them peddle Russian propaganda.
    He could have picked that up without even realizing what it was. Once it was fixed in his head, there would be no dislodging it.

    Or of course he could have been bought / compromised / whatever.

  25. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Tranquillus in Exile For This Post:

    evince (01-06-2019), guno (01-06-2019), kudzu (01-06-2019), reagansghost (01-06-2019)

  26. #14 | Top
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    18,077
    Thanks
    8,709
    Thanked 8,026 Times in 5,506 Posts
    Groans
    94
    Groaned 469 Times in 464 Posts
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Can Trump be both?
    Yeah.. Trump is not only poorly educated.. he's also stupid. Afghan communists overthrew the monarchy in 1974.. and the Soviets came in to prop them up in 1979.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

  27. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to kudzu For This Post:

    evince (01-06-2019), guno (01-06-2019), Tranquillus in Exile (01-06-2019)

  28. #15 | Top
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    3,193
    Thanks
    125
    Thanked 1,635 Times in 1,047 Posts
    Groans
    7
    Groaned 110 Times in 102 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Sadly, this is a question that nobody can really answer with any degree of certainty.

    This is the reality in the era of Trump.

    ************************************

    Trump defends Soviet Union's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan
    By Zachary Cohen, CNN

    Updated 10:50 AM ET, Fri January 4, 2019

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/03/polit...ion/index.html

    Washington (CNN) - During his freewheeling, 90-minute cabinet meeting Wednesday, President Donald Trump briefly argued that the Soviet Union "was right" to invade Afghanistan in 1979 because "terrorists were going into Russia," a head-scratching aside that was widely criticized as historically inaccurate.

    "Russia used to be the Soviet Union. Afghanistan made it Russia because they went bankrupt fighting in Afghanistan. Russia. So you take a look at other countries. Pakistan is there. They should be fighting," Trump said.

    "But Russia should be fighting. The reason Russia was in, in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there. The problem is it was a tough fight. And literally they went bankrupt. They went into being called Russia again as opposed to the Soviet Union," he added.

    The Wall Street Journal editorial board reacted strongly to Trump's comments in an op-ed Friday: "Right to be there? We cannot recall a more absurd misstatement of history by an American President. The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan with three divisions in December 1979 to prop up a fellow communist government."

    The Soviet Union, which was comprised of Russia and several now independent Eastern European and Asian nations, did in fact invade Afghanistan amid Cold War tensions with the US.

    But Trump's assertion that Russia was "right to be there" conflicts with the fact that the US strongly opposed the invasion and supported the guerilla insurgency that ultimately forced the Soviets to leave in 1988.

    His claim that the incursion was a response to "terrorists going into Russia" also diverges with what the US believed, that it was part of the Soviet effort to spread communism.

    The Kremlin's bloody nine-year campaign to support the Marxist government in Kabul cost the lives of more than 14,000 troops and hit the Soviet economy before its 100,000-strong army was forced into a humiliating withdrawal.

    While the Soviet economy did ultimately collapse, it did not go bankrupt, contrary to Trump's claim. Additionally, that collapse was not solely caused by the invasion into Afghanistan but rather a myriad of factors, including systemic issues within the Soviet Union's communist economy.

    Trump has long been critical of the US' own presence in Afghanistan, which began after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and his latest comments come as the US military has been ordered to begin planning to withdraw about half the troops in from the country.

    That decision was made last month, at the same time as Trump's decision to withdraw the US military from Syria -- moves that precipitated Defense Secretary James Mattis' resignation announcement.
    Trump criticized Mattis during Wednesday's meeting, specifically mentioning his handling of Afghanistan.

    "What's he done for me? How has he done in Afghanistan? Not too good. Not too good. I'm not happy with what he's done in Afghanistan and I shouldn't be happy," Trump said.

    The US has about 14,000 troops in Afghanistan, most of which are present as part of a larger NATO-led mission to train, advise and assist Afghan forces. Any withdrawal would be complicated by the fact that the United States is part of NATO's Resolute Support mission.

    ************************************************** ***********

    It is impossible to say whether Trump's comments were made out of simple ignorance of (among so MANY other things) history, or if he is just saying what his handlers in Moscow are telling him to.

    One thing is certain... Trump is undeniably the biggest fucking boob, rube, con man and pathological liar to ever occupy the WH. The question remains regarding his fealty to and possible control by the Russian government.

    GW Bush was a rocket scientist/brain surgeon/"nuculer"- astro physicist compared to Trump.

    His election stands as a testament to what can happen when mass numbers of easily fooled idiots get together and vote.

    Simply amazing.
    ACCORDING TO NUMEROUS EXPERTS and MILITARY BRASS, this is straight out of PUTIN foreign policy talking points and aspirations...

    EXCELLENT VIDEO...


    "I respect the office that HE holds and the agencies of government that he appoints to —I think I respect them more than HE does."
    Washington Post, January 3, 2019, Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House

  29. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Centerleftfl For This Post:

    evince (01-06-2019), guno (01-06-2019), kudzu (01-06-2019), Nomad (01-06-2019)

Similar Threads

  1. Trump's Russian pal reloads Putin's BS machine, JPP trolls get raise!
    By reagansghost in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-11-2018, 09:22 AM
  2. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-23-2018, 01:49 PM
  3. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-17-2018, 03:09 PM
  4. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 04-06-2018, 08:16 AM
  5. Trump-Putin. Why is U.S. - Russian cooperation so apocalyptic ?
    By anatta in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 09-02-2016, 04:08 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •