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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Seriously?
    Yes. You see, it was all an elaborate plot by the Israelis and certain <cue creepy music> factions within our own govt. Just ask him about Building 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    No, I simply hold you in contempt.
    Thanks. That's a compliment, considering its source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Yes, or the word dominant, they weren’t.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.myj...ave-trade/amp/

    Other studies, by Harold Brackman and Saul Friedman, reached similar conclusions. In a 1994 article in the New York Review of Books, David Brion Davis, an emeritus professor of history at Yale University and author of an award-winning trilogy of books about slavery, noted that Jews were one of countless religious and ethnic groups around the world to participate in the slave trade:

    The participants in the Atlantic slave system included Arabs, Berbers, scores of African ethnic groups, Italians, Portuguese, Spaniards, Dutch, Jews, Germans, Swedes, French, English, Danes, white Americans, Native Americans, and even thousands of New World blacks who had been emancipated or were descended from freed slaves but who then became slaveholding farmers or planters themselves.

    Davis went on to note that in the American South in 1830 there were “120 Jews among the 45,000 slaveholders owning twenty or more slaves and only twenty Jews among the 12,000 slaveholders owning fifty or more slaves.”
    This author is NO anti-semite.



    History of the Jews of the Caribbean , by Ralph G.Bennett

    History of the Jews of the Caribbean , by Ralph G.Bennett The year 1992 marked the 500th anniversary of the landing of Columbus in the New World. It also marked a less publicized anniversary, that of the beginning of what is known as the Second Diaspora, when the Jews were expelled from Spain and re-settled throughout the world.

    http://sefarad.org/lm/011/jewcar.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    That is okay. Even a broken clock, like you,is correct twice each day.
    I spent some happy years on the late amazon boards correcting people's fantasies about 9/11 "truth". C.O. was one of them
    (the people, not the fantasies).

    I started a 9/11 thread here on the conspiracy forum if anyone is interested.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...ower-Exploding

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    I spent some happy years on the late amazon boards correcting people's fantasies about 9/11 "truth". C.O. was one of them
    (the people, not the fantasies).

    I started a 9/11 thread here on the conspiracy forum if anyone is interested.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...ower-Exploding
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Yes. You see, it was all an elaborate plot by the Israelis and certain <cue creepy music> factions within our own govt. Just ask him about Building 7.
    Make me a sandwich and learn some real history, psychopath.
    Looking for clues at the scene of the crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    I spent some happy years on the late amazon boards correcting people's fantasies about 9/11 "truth". C.O. was one of them
    (the people, not the fantasies).

    I started a 9/11 thread here on the conspiracy forum if anyone is interested.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...ower-Exploding

    I am sorry if I have offended you, Tranquillus. You try to limit the discussion to the implosions at the World Trade Center, and you get that wrong.
    Looking for clues at the scene of the crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne Frank View Post
    What was your name on Amazon?

    Suetonius when I started in 2007; later Suet; and briefly before the curtain came down, Tranquillus.

    There were at least a dozen threads on 9/11 conspiracy in that time, each running to the maximum 10,000 posts.
    On JPP, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    I am sorry if I have offended you, Tranquillus.
    Relax, C.O., you haven't offended me. Is that stalker you had on Amazon still after you, btw?


    You try to limit the discussion to the implosions at the World Trade Center, and you get that wrong.
    Here's a mixed metaphor for 9/11 "truth": if the foundations are made of pie in the sky, the whole building doesn't stand up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    No, slavery in America was primarily a WASP thing.
    lol.......you say this after two thread pages showing the exact opposite......that's sad........

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Take morality out of it.. They dominated the slave trade in the New World and my Dutch ancestors worked for them.
    Here is an Atlantic article from 1995 which makes fascinating reading.

    Almost as soon as it appeared, in 1991, The Secret Relationship generated a controversy that centered more on its intentions than its scholarship. The noise level was heightened in 1993 by the turmoil that swirled around Professor Tony Martin, of Wellesley College. A tenured professor in Wellesley's Department of Africana Studies, Martin assigned to one of his classes portions of the book, which singles out Jews for special prominence in the Atlantic slave trade and for having played a particularly prominent role in the enslavement of Africans in the Americas. He was accused of anti-Semitism, and wrote a brief book to refute the charges. The title of Martin's book, The Jewish Onslaught: Despatches From the Wellesley Battlefront, gave a clear preview of his opinions. It was a mixture of discussion, factual refutation, and angry recrimination. This last predominated, with paragraphs that opened using language like "To the Jews, and to their favourite Negroes who have insisted on attacking me I say . . ." His views on The Secret Relationship's use of historical materials amounted to a barrage of enthusiastic endorsements. Ironically, Martin's assertion that "Jews were very much in the mainstream of European society as far as the trade in African human beings was concerned" was very close to what many Jewish scholars had claimed some thirty years before.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...e-jews/376462/
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    But it didn’t touch the theology behind it.

    The biggest peckerwood goyim religious outfit





    This week, the Southern Baptist Convention’s flagship seminary released a detailed, historical accounting of its white supremacist founding. Over 71 pages, the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary made explicit its founders’ slave-owning and the fact that its teachers and leaders used the Bible to justify it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/
    When are the Democrats going to admit their current slave mentality of keeping blacks on their plantation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    But it didn’t touch the theology behind it.

    The biggest peckerwood goyim religious outfit





    This week, the Southern Baptist Convention’s flagship seminary released a detailed, historical accounting of its white supremacist founding. Over 71 pages, the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary made explicit its founders’ slave-owning and the fact that its teachers and leaders used the Bible to justify it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/
    That's just the way DEMOCRATS roll......Slave owners or proponents of slavery were all "democrats". I have just one question....why is the statue of Douglas still standing in the state of Illinois?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Here is an Atlantic article from 1995 which makes fascinating reading.



    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...e-jews/376462/
    I read Martin's book years ago and I think he goes too far. My interest is in the slave trade to the Caribbean.. Bennett's study comes out of the study of his wife's ancestry... as does mine.


    This author is NO anti-semite.



    History of the Jews of the Caribbean , by Ralph G.Bennett

    History of the Jews of the Caribbean , by Ralph G.Bennett The year 1992 marked the 500th anniversary of the landing of Columbus in the New World. It also marked a less publicized anniversary, that of the beginning of what is known as the Second Diaspora, when the Jews were expelled from Spain and re-settled throughout the world.

    http://sefarad.org/lm/011/jewcar.html
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    The Slave Trade was, I think, organised mainly by capitalists in Bristol and Liverpool, very few of whom were Jewish, as far as I know. Slavery scarcely existed in the UK at the time, and was soon shown to be illegal. The whole point of the exercise was to make money, whatever the human cost, and as with almost every other horror, any guilt should be ascribed to the capitalist system itself, rather than to any particular group or individual.

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