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    Default Permanent Government Shutdown

    I have never liked Chuck and Nancy, but I am so very thankful for their government shut down. What I really want to see, is for the government to stay shutdown forever. There are more jobs than workers now, so I have no pity on any government workers who will be inconvenienced by having to find other work. Non essential workers are exactly that, non essential. Anybody else thankful to Chuck and Nancy for finally doing something great by shutting down such a waste of money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    I have never liked Chuck and Nancy, but I am so very thankful for their government shut down. What I really want to see, is for the government to stay shutdown forever. There are more jobs than workers now, so I have no pity on any government workers who will be inconvenienced by having to find other work. Non essential workers are exactly that, non essential. Anybody else thankful to Chuck and Nancy for finally doing something great by shutting down such a waste of money?
    It really isn't only "non-essential" people that are affected. Military personnel will not receive pay during the shutdown, but will be required to work as "essential" personnel. While they will receive back pay once it is over, many are already living paycheck to paycheck and can ill survive long hauls where they are not paid. Think of the guys at the border currently... they are also part of the people that will not get paid.
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    Can these people get 'Unemployment'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Can these people get 'Unemployment'?
    No. Active military personnel are not able to get "unemployment".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    No. Active military personnel are not able to get "unemployment".
    I guess they will be 'reimbursed', what about the civilian workers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I guess they will be 'reimbursed', what about the civilian workers?
    Almost all civilian jobs are still plugging away, the idea that it is "non-essential" personnel that are not getting paid is a bit of a misnomer. TSA employees, for example, are essential and have to work but are not getting paid. There are a bit over 800,000 Federal employees not getting paid at this time, some of them are "non essential", but most are working still just not getting a paycheck for it.

    Only those that are furloughed have a threat of not being paid at all for this time. Others who are working without a paycheck now will get paid, but it will happen after the shutdown ends.
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    Usually furloughed employees wind up getting payed though. It worked that way with both Obama and Clinton.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It really isn't only "non-essential" people that are affected. Military personnel will not receive pay during the shutdown, but will be required to work as "essential" personnel. While they will receive back pay once it is over, many are already living paycheck to paycheck and can ill survive long hauls where they are not paid. Think of the guys at the border currently... they are also part of the people that will not get paid.
    Congress still gets paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Usually furloughed employees wind up getting payed though. It worked that way with both Obama and Clinton.
    Salaries for members of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps are not affected by the latest government shutdown because the Department of Defense had its full fiscal year funding approved last fall.

    This week, Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., introduced the “Pay Our Coast Guard Act” to keep paying personnel even during a lapse in appropriations.

    The exemption also would cover Coast Guard retired benefits, death gratuities and other related payouts.

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/01/04/as-shutdown-continues-lawmakers-look-for-fix-on-coast-guard-pay/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It really isn't only "non-essential" people that are affected. Military personnel will not receive pay during the shutdown, but will be required to work as "essential" personnel. While they will receive back pay once it is over, many are already living paycheck to paycheck and can ill survive long hauls where they are not paid. Think of the guys at the border currently... they are also part of the people that will not get paid.
    Everything will be ok. Chuck and Nancy are doing a great thing by keeping the government shut down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Everything will be ok. Chuck and Nancy are doing a great thing by keeping the government shut down.
    I'm not particularly panicked, though my friends in the TSA aren't very happy.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Congress still gets paid.
    If there's any gubmint nonessential...

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    YES, keep the nothing down.
    Hate the people, your government, keep them down and blame them for your limitations in life.

    So post Clinton-Reagan.

    AOC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I'm not particularly panicked, though my friends in the TSA aren't very happy.
    YOU HAVE FRIENDS IN THE TSA???!!!

    YOU BASTARD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    YOU HAVE FRIENDS IN THE TSA???!!!

    YOU BASTARD.

    My best man at my wedding is a TSA employee, his wife, his ex wife too... lol
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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