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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    You think the Hildebeast is the president, grandpa?

    educating you morons gets old. Polls poll people and more people voted for her that trump, yes the polls were correct you knuckle dragger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgutz View Post
    educating you morons gets old. Polls poll people and more people voted for her that trump, yes the polls were correct you knuckle dragger.
    She's not your president, is she, grandpa?

    Don't the pollsters whose opinions you selectively cite know about the Electoral College?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Name calling? What are you? A little kid? Or just an "adult" Democrat. About the same intellectual level.
    She's an old Amazonian poster with a new shtick, according to TOP, Cap'n.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    educating you morons gets old. Polls poll people and more people voted for her that trump, yes the polls were correct you knuckle dragger.
    This is uninformed. The polls were in each state where an election was held, including the ones where Trump gained the electoral votes, and those were wrong. Simply saying that because in California so many people voted for Hillary it means the polls were right just shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the other 49 elections that were held that day and how polls are conducted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    Andrew Jackson defied the supreme court.
    So? He also murdered a man, devised the political spoils system, and engaged in genocidal campaigns against native Americans. Fun fact: he was the first DEMOCRAT president, fraudster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    This is uninformed. The polls were in each state where an election was held, including the ones where Trump gained the electoral votes, and those were wrong. Simply saying that because in California so many people voted for Hillary it means the polls were right just shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the other 49 elections that were held that day and how polls are conducted.

    You are making it more complicated than need be. The polls that projected her the winner were correct when you look at the votes. The polls that show Americans oppose the wall also poll people. The EC is completely irrelevant in this case. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-new...ding-the-wall/

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    You are making it more complicated than need be. The polls that projected her the winner were correct when you look at the votes. The polls that show Americans oppose the wall also poll people. The EC is completely irrelevant in this case. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-new...ding-the-wall/
    No. I am introducing you to reality. The polls that are notably incorrect are the ones that were in the elections where Trump gained the electoral votes for that state but the polls showed he would lose. Like Michigan, Pennsylvania, so forth.

    When speaking about facts it is important to understand all of the facts, not just the ones that you want to see. The "popular vote" is a hypothetical. We do not have one election, we have 51 (50 states and the District of Columbia) where each awards electoral college votes. In this case many electoral college votes went to Trump that were listed to go to Hillary. The polls were wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    No. I am introducing you to reality. The polls that are notably incorrect are the ones that were in the elections where Trump gained the electoral votes for that state but the polls showed he would lose. Like Michigan, Pennsylvania, so forth.

    When speaking about facts it is important to understand all of the facts, not just the ones that you want to see. The "popular vote" is a hypothetical. We do not have one election, we have 51 (50 states and the District of Columbia) where each awards electoral college votes. In this case many electoral college votes went to Trump that were listed to go to Hillary. The polls were wrong.

    The fact that you're trying to obfuscate is Americans don't want the wall

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    Trump is missing the point. Over 90 percent of drugs and illegals come in through ports of entry. He should shut them down. Nobody comes in or out until they are inspected inch by inch. If he is really concerned about illegals and drugs, anything less is theater. Trump is all show and lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump is missing the point. Over 90 percent of drugs and illegals come in through ports of entry. He should shut them down. Nobody comes in or out until they are inspected inch by inch. If he is really concerned about illegals and drugs, anything less is theater. Trump is all show and lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    No. I am introducing you to reality. The polls that are notably incorrect are the ones that were in the elections where Trump gained the electoral votes for that state but the polls showed he would lose. Like Michigan, Pennsylvania, so forth.

    When speaking about facts it is important to understand all of the facts, not just the ones that you want to see. The "popular vote" is a hypothetical. We do not have one election, we have 51 (50 states and the District of Columbia) where each awards electoral college votes. In this case many electoral college votes went to Trump that were listed to go to Hillary. The polls were wrong.
    Still ignoring my question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Still ignoring my question?
    No, I answered it, even quoted you. Read the thread. Are you still going to pretend that I didn't?
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    If Trump can shut down the govt for weeks or months until he gets his wall as he threatens then clearly there is no emergency at the border.

    Utter bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    If Trump can shut down the govt for weeks or months until he gets his wall as he threatens then clearly there is no emergency at the border.

    Utter bullshit.
    What a stupid statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    No, I answered it, even quoted you. Read the thread. Are you still going to pretend that I didn't?
    You answered my question about where the Constitution grants additional powers to the president if he declares an emergency?

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