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    Default Where do federal judges get authority to order Trump to NOT enforce immigration laws?

    DACA is not a law. Obama simply announced in an executive order that he will let millions of illegals stay and work in america even though actual laws passed by congress say they can't. And yet courts have declared that because obama refused to enforce our immigration laws, that trump can't enforce them either!!

    Trump needs to point to article 2 section 3 of the constitution and the clause that says the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed."
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    HAHAHA. The board notes you have no rebuttal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    HAHAHA. The board notes you have no rebuttal.
    You're an asshole, but you're not wrong here. Bourbon is a simpleton and couldn't form a coherent argument anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    You're an asshole, but you're not wrong here. Bourbon is a simpleton and couldn't form a coherent argument anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    HAHAHA. The board notes you have no rebuttal.
    Maybe if you were a lawyer handjob you might have a clue

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Maybe if you were a lawyer handjob you might have a clue
    I don't know what that means but it sounds like an insult and i don't tolerate insults.
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    Default Where do federal judges get authority to order Trump to NOT enforce immigration laws?

    Right here:



    Take a civics class, dumbass.
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    C'MON MAN!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    HAHAHA. The board notes you have no rebuttal.
    Haven't you figured things out yet, stress ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    An executive order made it law, troll-tard.
    Executive orders cannot make law, they can only define how laws passed by congress or powers given the President in the constitution are enforced. It must be used to direct action on a power the President already has either through the constitution or through legislation, it cannot be used to give the President new powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Executive orders cannot make law, they can only define how laws passed by congress or powers given the President in the constitution are enforced. It must be used to direct action on a power the President already has either through the constitution or through legislation, it cannot be used to give the President new powers.
    Well if it's not a law, then how is it implemented, and why did Trump turn it into a fiasco? Chances are I should know this, but my heads messed up today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Well if it's not a law, then how is it implemented, and why did Trump turn it into a fiasco?
    If congress passes a law allowing border enforcement and defining who is and isn't a legal resident, directives (executive orders) can define how employees are to implement the law as written. One of the reasons that Obama did not do DACA earlier in his presidency is because he believed that courts would rule against his directive as it grabbed power by giving out legal residence cards to a group of people not defined as legal in the law by Congress who has sole authority over immigration, citizenship and naturalization. He explained as much in many speeches along the way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    If congress passes a law allowing border enforcement and defining who is and isn't a legal resident, directives (executive orders) can define how employees are to implement the law as written. One of the reasons that Obama did not do DACA earlier in his presidency is because he believed that courts would rule against his directive as it grabbed power (giving out legal residence cards) to a group of people not defined as legal in the law by Congress who has sole authority over immigration, citizenship and naturalization. He explained as much in many speeches along the way...
    Well I'm obviously not thinking straight today, as I should have known that. I really hate this time of year. I'll just delete my silly comment

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    it makes no sense. If DACA is an XO it must by definition be reversable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Well I'm not thinking straight today, as I should have known that. I really hate this time of year. I'll just delete my silly comment
    Nah, it's all good. I figured you were asking an honest question and answered it that same way.
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