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    This was just too good to pass up. These words might as well be verbatum out of Desh's mouth. Don't mean to be offensive but I was laughing as I read parts of this.



    Sue Wilson: Federal rules give corporation-backed conservative radio all the local voices

    http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/927485.html

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    Pretty much , they keep on getting the liberal ones for such things as child porn.

    They were kiddie pics of Karl Rove is the disgusting part.

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    Right-wing talk radio survives because right-wing people need to be told what to think.

    No surprise.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Right-wing talk radio survives because right-wing people need to be told what to think.

    No surprise.
    Right-wing talk came about and prospered because before Fox News there were very few conservative voices on TV and the mainstream press so this was there outlet.

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    The fairness doctorine will apply to all people no matter their leanings.

    This is about the fact that corporations will only finacially support talk that helps them keep their hands arround the neck of Americas government.

    This is how they yhave been able to fuck your party so well they own it cawack.

    Want your party back from the rich bastards then the fairness doctrine will help you do that. They wont be able to fuck your party with people Like Rush "carrying the water " for this party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Right-wing talk came about and prospered because before Fox News there were very few conservative voices on TV and the mainstream press so this was there outlet.
    Conservatives had as much access and voices in mainstream press as does the left even before FAUX News.

    The mainstream press is owned by corporations and people who align themselves to the right.

    My point was that the left does not sit around listening to talk show pundits all day, everyday .. and the left is far more critical of what is being said than is the right .. in my opinion.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desh View Post
    The fairness doctorine will apply to all people no matter their leanings.

    This is about the fact that corporations will only finacially support talk that helps them keep their hands arround the neck of Americas government.

    This is how they yhave been able to fuck your party so well they own it cawack.

    Want your party back from the rich bastards then the fairness doctrine will help you do that. They wont be able to fuck your party with people Like Rush "carrying the water " for this party.
    So very true.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Conservatives had as much access and voices in mainstream press as does the left even before FAUX News.

    The mainstream press is owned by corporations and people who align themselves to the right.

    My point was that the left does not sit around listening to talk show pundits all day, everyday .. and the left is far more critical of what is being said than is the right .. in my opinion.
    You may wish to rethink that position if this board is any indication. Take a look at the vast majority of the threads regarding Bill O'Reilly, Rush, Hannity etc... the vast majority are started by the lefties who probably make up the bulk of their listeners.

    Then look at the number of threads with moveon.org or mediamatters as the source material. Then perhaps a glance at the NY Times op ed pieces or See B.S. references. Not to mention the tool of all tools... Olbermann
    Quote from Cypress:
    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desh View Post
    The fairness doctorine will apply to all people no matter their leanings.

    This is about the fact that corporations will only finacially support talk that helps them keep their hands arround the neck of Americas government.

    This is how they yhave been able to fuck your party so well they own it cawack.

    Want your party back from the rich bastards then the fairness doctrine will help you do that. They wont be able to fuck your party with people Like Rush "carrying the water " for this party.
    Again I ask you... in your opinion does this apply to print media as well? All magazines, tabloids, newspapers etc..? All on line sites such as mediamatters, moveon.org etc....????
    Quote from Cypress:
    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    The Fairness Doctrine is stupid. If someone lies about you sue their ass for slander. If they mischaracterize your statments but not to the point of slander someone will run a piece on it, if you are a lefty you can bet your ass Olberman will call them on it and if you are a rightie you can bet your ass that Faux will call them on it. But there is NO FRICKEN NEED for the fairness doctrine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrtease View Post
    The Fairness Doctrine is stupid. If someone lies about you sue their ass for slander. If they mischaracterize your statments but not to the point of slander someone will run a piece on it, if you are a lefty you can bet your ass Olberman will call them on it and if you are a rightie you can bet your ass that Faux will call them on it. But there is NO FRICKEN NEED for the fairness doctrine.
    QFT....

    But it would be fun if the Dems passed it and then watched as mediamatters, moveon, the NY times and others got bombarded along with Rush etc...
    Quote from Cypress:
    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    QFT....

    But it would be fun if the Dems passed it and then watched as mediamatters, moveon, the NY times and others got bombarded along with Rush etc...
    To my understanding it only applies to talk radio which is why the left is so much for it.

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    While it would be extremely funny for a little while, in the long run it would not work and just be abolished again.
    There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.

    -Oscar Wilde

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrtease View Post
    The Fairness Doctrine is stupid. If someone lies about you sue their ass for slander. If they mischaracterize your statments but not to the point of slander someone will run a piece on it, if you are a lefty you can bet your ass Olberman will call them on it and if you are a rightie you can bet your ass that Faux will call them on it. But there is NO FRICKEN NEED for the fairness doctrine.
    Slander suits are a strange thing. Franken v. Bill O'Reilly, where Billy lied about what Franken said, so he sued. He lost because Bill lies so frequently that it wasn't seen as out of character, e.g. it probably wasn't a direct attack on Franken but just more of what he does best - lie, fabricate, then turn off your mic.

    The point being you can't rely on the judicial system to uphold common sense.

    No need? 264-0. Thats a discrepancy that reflects most of America and it's a perfect indication of how bad things are WITHOUT the fairness doctrine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    To my understanding it only applies to talk radio which is why the left is so much for it.
    which is why I keep asking Desh if she believes it should apply to all media and not just the forum the conservatives dominate. Somehow I doubt I will ever get an answer to that.
    Quote from Cypress:
    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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