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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    As a young person I was frustrated with learning, esp. the stuff forced on us as students, that seemed to be useless. (algebra cough cough) As an old person, I'm delighted that the world contains a vast trove of knowledge that I have yet to dive into. If only we could have much longer lives so that we could learn more! Oh, and more book cases too, please.
    So many books, so little time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    NIce work taking it upon yourself to learn about the Cohokians and Mississipians.

    I do not have a clue what you mean by residential schools. Lay it on me.
    I have, the practice was done in Alaska. The children were abused and not allowed to speak their native language or learn their native customs. It was an immoral practice. Another shame on our history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    No shame... I never heard of them either growing up. Starting in 1850 the U.S. govt., and the Canadian govt., started rounding up native kids -- forcefully in many cases -- and sending them to boarding schools, often run by Catholics and other Xtian factions. They were transported sometimes 100s of miles from their families. They were forbidden to speak their native languages, to practice their native faiths, to wear their traditional clothing or hair styles. Thousands of children died in these schools of abuse, neglect, suicide. Thousands more were raped and murdered. Entire cultures were wiped out. There are elders in our own community here who were forced to attend these schools (the last ones closed up in Canada in 1990. 1980s in the U.S.) Their memories are heartbreaking. I guess the best analogy that would resonate with modern American citizens would be for American kids to be kidnapped by some Muslim group, transported to a foreign area hundreds of miles from their homeland and family, stripped of their clothing and forced to wear Muslim garb, punished for speaking English while being forced to learn Arabic, forced to learn the new religion and manners of their captors....
    Yes!!!!!! Another shameful practice in American history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I have, the practice was done in Alaska. The children were abused and not allowed to speak their native language or learn their native customs. It was an immoral practice. Another shame on our history.
    A lot of sociologists believe that this is at least partially responsible for the current high rate of substance abuse and mental health issues in native populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The idea behind the Indian boarding schools was "Kill the Indian, save the man".. They were designed to destroy any remnant of the culture of the Native Americans and resistance was met with cruelty.
    Exactly. Compounding the shame of this era in our history is our failure now to include it as part of what students learn in school when studying American history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    A lot of sociologists believe that this is at least partially responsible for the current high rate of substance abuse and mental health issues in native populations.
    I would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Exactly. Compounding the shame of this era in our history is our failure now to include it as part of what students learn in school when studying American history.
    I agree.. They changed their names, cut their hair and forced them to convert to Christianity.. and we pretend that it NEVER happened.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    I agree.. They changed their names, cut their hair and forced them to convert to Christianity.. and we pretend that it NEVER happened.
    "Oh, those people? They were just assimilated by a superior culture, that's all."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    "Oh, those people? They were just assimilated by a superior culture, that's all."
    For me its hard to even imagine people being so cruel, but they called themselves Christians and believed they were "Saving" the native Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    For me its hard to even imagine people being so cruel, but they called themselves Christians and believed they were "Saving" the native Americans.
    I know. One of the required courses for my degree is a semester-long study of the boarding school era. I am really dreading it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I know. One of the required courses for my degree is a semester-long study of the boarding school era. I am really dreading it.
    Wow. There's a film that is well done about Indian boarding schools.. I'm drawing a blank.. damn it.. Will get back to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Wow. There's a film that is well done about Indian boarding schools.. I'm drawing a blank.. damn it.. Will get back to you.
    Was it "The Education of Little Tree"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Was it "The Education of Little Tree"?
    Nope.. That's not it, but thanks.
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    its a shame they didn't think of training them to run craps tables at casinos a century earlier..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Nope.. That's not it, but thanks.
    IF it ever comes to you let me know; I'm interested in seeing it.

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