Euthanasia Is Camped On The Northern Border

[Flanders]

Abortion is a small slice of the services they provide.

To Nordberg: Get clearance from “Doctor” Wen before you reply:

Planned Parenthood President Dr. Leana Wen has affirmed the organization’s commitment to providing abortions after she claimed the news media misconstrued her earlier statements about expanding non-abortion services.

Ms. Wen clarified Tuesday that Planned Parenthood’s “core mission” is to provide, protect and expand access to abortion.

Expand access with tax dollars.

Planned Parenthood President Leana Wen: Abortion is our 'core mission'
By Jessica Chasmar
Wednesday, January 9, 2019

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/9/leana-wen-planned-parenthood-president-says-aborti/

[Nordberg]

To Nordberg: Get clearance from “Doctor” Wen before you reply:

Planned Parenthood President Dr. Leana Wen has affirmed the organization’s commitment to providing abortions after she claimed the news media misconstrued her earlier statements about expanding non-abortion services.

Ms. Wen clarified Tuesday that Planned Parenthood’s “core mission” is to provide, protect and expand access to abortion.

Expand access with tax dollars.

Planned Parenthood President Leana Wen: Abortion is our 'core mission'
By Jessica Chasmar
Wednesday, January 9, 2019

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/9/leana-wen-planned-parenthood-president-says-aborti/

Still Under 3percent of services. They do a lot of health services and family planning.
I don't think anyone is forcing you to get an abortion.

[Flanders]

Still Under 3percent of services.

To Nordberg: Tax dollar abortions pay for it all. The services Planned Parenthood lies about can easily be performed by clinics that do not perform abortions.

They do a lot of health services and family planning.

To Nordberg: Family planning is doublespeak for promoting abortion. You can bet that Planned Parenthood never recommends ‘Have the baby.’

I don't think anyone is forcing you to get an abortion.

Kerry continued: "There (shall be) no more cutbacks on population control efforts around the world."

Crooked thought
William F. Buckley
February 26, 2004

http://townhall.com/columnists/willi...rooked_thought

To Nordberg: Play nice. A woman’s choice includes no forced abortions IN THIS COUNTRY? The woman’s choice lie in the U.S. is held up as the gold standard for killing babies, while the abortion crowd dare not call attention to —— or object to —— China:

Forced Abortion Still Mandated Under China’s “Planned Birth” Laws
Two-Child Policy or One-Child Policy, it’s a No-Child Policy if You Violate it.
Steven W. Mosher and Jonathan Abbamonte
January 15, 2018

https://www.pop.org/forced-abortion-...ed-birth-laws/

[CharacterAssassin]

The Netherlands leads the world in Socialist parasites. There is no better example of Socialist morality at work than those in Holland. The Dutch rejected Nazi euthanasia, but now Dutch Communists lead the world in peacetime euthanasia. The Netherlands has long been the proving ground for worldwide Socialism’s Culture of Death. As I said many times “Nazi Germany’s occupation was the last good thing to happen in the Netherlands.” Sad to say Holland’s morality is camping on our border:

Following its 2019 elections, Canada is expected to approve euthanasia for sick children, joining the Netherlands and Belgium as the only nations in the world affirmatively sanctioning such practices.

The Council of Canadian Academies, a government advisory board has studied the expansion of euthanasia to include making it available for children, those with mental illness and so-called “advance requests” by those who wish to set in motion assisted suicide should they become incompetent to make the decision later.

Whereas assisted suicide is legal in some states in the U.S., no statistics are kept on the number of cases.

In Canada, however, it’s a booming business with thousands put to death by doctors and nurse practitioners since it was legalized nationwide in 2015. Clinics run TV commercials for euthanasia.

Nearly 2,000 were killed in 2017 alone in Canada, almost all by lethal injection.

Coming soon: Legal child euthanasia
Posted By -NO AUTHOR- On 12/23/2018 @ 5:28 pm

https://www.wnd.com/2018/12/coming-s...ld-euthanasia/

The phrase “The Constitution is not a suicide pact.” is often attributed to Associate Justice Robert H. Jackson (1892 - 1954), yet liberals are hellbent on bringing about America’s self-destruction. (Jackson took a leave of absence from the Supreme Court in order to act as the CHIEF PROSECUTOR in the best-known of the International Military Tribunals held in Nuremberg.)

There is nothing immoral in punishing those responsible for war crimes, but I always thought that they should be tried and punished by the victims in the country where the crimes took place —— not by an international body of any kind.

Socialist intellectuals have been working overtime establishing International law since the second half of the 19^th century. The 1961 movie Justice at Nuremberg was the first major propaganda attempt to sell it to the masses. J-at-N was shown on television’s Playhouse 90 before it was made into a theatrical movie. After listening to the dialogue it is hard to miss liberalism’s moral garbage.

The movie’s attack on love of country is even more offensive than is glorifying non-existent International law. That is not to say I put in with the kind of patriotism the Nazis practiced. The not-so-subliminal message that I object to is that patriotism itself was portrayed as the villain; Nazi judges went along out of their love for Germany.

Hitler came to power on false patriotism (nationalism). Obama came to power by paying scant lip service to his love of this country. Frankly, he did not need patriotism as a stepping stone to the White House. Had he needed it he would have used it. Luckily for Obama, and with a lot of help from the media, he avoided a patriotism pissing contest with his opponent John McCain.

Institutional sadism first preaches, then implements, the horrors that should be understood. Infanticide, euthanasia, population controls, death panels, forced sterilization, and doctor-assisted suicides, represent the very essence of institutional brutality. Every progressive ideal has been gaining acceptance while wearing a cloak of compassion.

NOTE: Islam added female mutilation to the list of institutional brutality in non-Muslim countries.

Incidentally, the high cost of keeping a comatose patient on life support is one of the arguments used to end life. The very people who make that argument never complain about the tremendous cost of feeding wealthy tax dollar parasites. In short: The number of individuals requiring life support is miniscule compared to the number of millionaire Democrat parasites in the federal government.

I noticed that the euthanasia lobby —— which includes the mainstream media —— list brain dead as a success. See this thread for more about brain dead:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...04#post2776904

This is one aspect of brain dead that especially troubles me. There is an assumption that thoughts, emotions, feelings, etc., originate in the brain. Hence, brain dead sounds logical. I have never been convinced that that is the case. When you cut your finger an impulse is sent to the brain telling you to feel the pain in your finger. The paralyzing fear a person feels as their car skids towards an oncoming truck begins in the pit of their stomach, it does not originate in the brain.

Who can deny that thoughts are only processed by the brain originating elsewhere as in pain or fear? The brain is a processor and does not feel pain. As far as I know, there was no damage elsewhere sending signals to Terri’s brain telling her to feel pain. There was no evidence that she was feeling pain. Even if it can be shown beyond a doubt that she was in pain the answer is painkillers not euthanasia.

Those who killed Terri said that she was not in pain —— never admitting that starvation causes pain even if the brain was not functioning well enough to activate a defense mechanism.

Please do not compare the court-ordered murder of an innocent woman to the execution of a criminal after decades of tax dollar funded appeals. In any event, Terri Schiavo never hurt anyone, but she was killed without her consent anyway.

One of the arguments for killing Terri cited her Right to abstain from receiving artificial life support. The word abstain was actually used. Of all of the perverse talking points liberals cite to justify killing with kindness the abstain claim is the worst; more so since no one knew what Terri wanted. The government does not allow Americans to abstain from anything these days. Obviously, an exception was made to accommodate the Grim Reaper in Terri’s Right to abstain from being murdered.

To no one’s surprise the ACLU came down on the side of killing Terri Schiavo. The ACLU is a charter member in the Culture of Death Club, while at the same time the ACLU fights the death penalty at every turn. Do not let the Culture of Death crowd’s push to abolish the death penalty fool you. Liberals are outraged by the death penalty because they fear the day they might find themselves strapped to a gurney.

NOTE: The U.N.’s phony-ass International Court of Justice does not allow a death penalty. The reason is simple. Politicians and the rich are the only people who get a trial in The Hague, Netherlands.

Parenthetically, a few years ago anti-death penalty liberals got the High Court to look into the method of lethal injections used by the states. They said that execution by lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment under the Eighth Amendment. At the time I resolved the constitutional issue real fast. I said the Nifty Nine should order states to order those officials who carry out a death sentence to use the same methods used by Jack “The Dripper” Kervokian (1928 - 2011) and the assisted-suicide crowd.

Democrats kill everything that walks on two feet except convicted murderers anyway. So if those states with the death penalty have a problem with cruel and unusual punishment they can use Jack the Dripper’s painless cocktail. According to liberals doctor-assisted suicide is painless.

Who can swear that Terri Schiavo’s life force, her emotions, her ability to know life was not functioning? Say that a bird landed on Terri’s windowsill. How can anyone say that Terri did not experience the same pleasure and curiosity that makes an infant giggle? The euthanasia crowd will never admit to that possibility because they only speak for themselves. They assume that because they do not want to live in a so-called vegetative state no one else does either.

My point: A brain dead vegetative state is a physical thing with no proof that thoughts and emotions are not alive and well somewhere else. People in the West assigned courage and cowardliness to the heart: “He has the heart of a lion” or “He is fainthearted.” The Chinese always thought the liver was the most important organ. That shows there has always been a suspicion that thoughts and emotions reside somewhere other than in the brain.

I never came across a great body of thought that put the brain at the center of life. Those who believe in euthanasia are the only ones who say that. I do not consider their political agenda a great body of thought.

If I am absolutely correct about this ——Terri’s very essence was starved in the cruelest way imaginable.

Agree or disagree with removing Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube, but you cannot deny that an individual got away with killing her because justification —— not the act —— was the deciding factor. By exonerating the person who did the act, did not the courts endorse the Nazi defense —— I was only following orders. Bottom line: The courts must always judge the act not the justification.

Florida’s courts allowed it, and the US Supreme Court refused to hear Schiavo’s case. Had the SCOTUS taken the case you can be certain the butchers would have screamed about the government interfering in our lives. Naturally, it is not government interference when a state court orders the feeding tube removed. The person who actually pulled the plug committed murder. I never found the name of the person who removed the feeding tube? And I never understood why in hell they were not arrested for premeditated murder?

Why murder? And why premeditated?

A person had to commit the physical act of removing the feeding tube well-knowing Terri’s death would be the result. That is premeditated murder. Think of it this way. Suppose the individual who removed Terri’s feeding tube had the court’s permission to shoot her rather than let her starve to death. Would that be premeditated murder?

Parenthetically, TV viewers are bombarded with government propaganda depicting hard-hitting cops and district attorneys ever-ready to lockup the bad guys, yet someone commits a deliberate act that ends in the death of another person and there are no cops or district attorneys in sight. In fact, the policeman on duty in Terri’s room was told to leave the room so he could not be a called as a witness to identify the murderer.

In addition, judges in Terri’s case are guilty of aiding and abetting a premeditated homicide. At the very least, someone in authority should have told those judges: “If you want that feeding tube removed come and do it yourself.” I know that if I worked at Terri’s hospice and someone ordered me to remove her feeding tube, I would have told them where to shove the job.

And how many Americans realize that Socialist priests in our courts issue orders while making damn sure that real blood does not soil their precious judicial robes.

And of course there is always this: “America is a nation of laws.” What a joke that is. America is a nation of judges issuing orders. Neither judges nor anyone else had the Right to end Terri’s life just because she could not speak for herself.

NOTE: The Left is forever citing the Nazis as the only villains in the twentieth century. Some try to equate conservatives to Nazis, yet a close look always shows that Socialists are the Nazi clones. Not punishing Terri Schiavo’s murderer is only one such example.

To justify taking an innocent individual’s life opens the door to governments murdering millions. If the tens of millions of murders done by governments in the last century taught anything it is that there is no slope slipperier than cultivating the government’s bloodlust. Bottom line: Never, never, never, give the government the authority to kill innocent people.

The road to governments slaughtering their own people begins with the public’s acceptance of things like mercy killing, doctor-assisted suicide, abortion on demand, and so on. The sheer number of abortions makes it the worst mass murder. Slaughtering tens of millions of infants (hundreds of millions worldwide) became doing a kindness for mothers.

A long time ago I asked myself what inhuman pain I would have felt while I was being torn apart had my mother aborted me? I still cry knowing that no one hears the screams of a fetus while it is being torn to pieces more methodically than animals tear apart a prey. Science gave us so much unnecessary brutality, the least scientists can do is find a way to record the screams of a fetus so Democrats can hear them.

Finally, was I too hard on judges? Hardly! A snake is a snake; a judge is a judge. A venomous snake may drowse in a bed of flowers, but it remains a deadly snake. Snakes and judges do what they will do. They are creatures of habit no more able to change their ways than the Earth can alter its orbit around the sun.

This country’s euthanasia crowd already cite the healthcare systems in the UK, Canada, and Cuba as models of compassion. After Canada legislates government-approved euthanasia you can expect Democrats to push for a similar law. Should Congress drop the ball on the goal line they will turn to lawyers on the U.S. Supreme Court to legislate another Roe v. Wade.

The Netherlands aren't socialist, you mewing pustule.

Have your parole officer explain that that words means to you.

[Flanders]

UPDATE

I never came across a great body of thought that put the brain at the center of life. Those who believe in euthanasia are the only ones who say that. I do not consider their political agenda a great body of thought.

Expect the 9^th Circuit to come down on the side of killing:

California’s law defining brain death and stipulating when doctors can remove life support from a patient was the target of a court hearing in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals this week.

The case was brought by Jonee Fonseca, whose infant, Israel Stinson, was determined to be brain dead by doctors who then turned off life support for him.

A lawyer for Fonseca, Matthew McReynolds of the Pacific Justice Institute, said the state’s Uniform Determination of Death Act allowing doctors to be both “judge and executioner” should be thrown out.

After 40 minutes of arguments Monday, the judges on the 9th Circuit panel said they would review the evidence.

WND reported last year the dispute centers on a diagnosis of PVS, persistent vegetative state, in which a patient is comatose but still shows signs of life. The hospital turned off life support for 2-year-old Israel Stinson because a death certificate had been issued.

The case followed by only months a ruling in a similar case in California that allowed a malpractice lawsuit against a hospital to move forward even though a death certificate had been issued for teenager Jahi McMath.

McMath later succumbed to other health threats even as her case moved forward in the courts.

In the Stinson case, the brief filing with the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals concedes the boy is dead.

“No human power can call him back to life,” the filing states. “But his dignity can be reclaimed, his family’s fundamental rights to self-determination restored, and the statues that provided authority for the taking of his life rescinded.”

The complaint challenges the application of the state’s Uniform Determination of Death Act by Kaiser, arguing the boy “continued to show signs of life and responded to his mother’s voice and touch.”

He had suffered an asthma attack early in 2016 and doctors pronounced him dead. His mother kept him on life support, and when doctors sought to disconnect him, she moved him to Guatemala for treatment.

According to the complaint, he “remained biological alive with a chance of recovery.”

“In the late summer of 2016, Israel’s family was led to believe he could receive treatment at Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles and brought him back to the United States. But when the hospital learned that the state had issued a death certificate months earlier, they sought to terminate life support. The hospital would not permit an independent examination by an eminent doctor from UCLA who was prepared to assist the family,” Pacific Justice said.

The boy was moved to Kaiser, and then the hospital obtained permission to disconnect him from life support. Even as “an attorney frantically raced to the Second District Court of Appeals,” he was cut off from life support.

“As that attorney was handing a clerk his credit card to process payment for an appeal and request for stay, the hospital forcibly removed life support and the child expired.”

PJI then represented Israel’s mother in her challenge to the constitutionality of state laws that take away life-and-death decisions from parents.

A federal court in Sacramento dismissed the case, holding that the state cannot be held responsible for its determination-of-death laws, because doctors have “broad and legitimate discretion” to end patients’ life support, PJI said.

“What happened to our client was every parent’s worst nightmare. To see her son fighting for life while two different hospitals fought – and ultimately succeeded – in ending his life was an excruciating and unimaginable horror. This should never happen to another family, and that’s why we are challenging the state laws that facilitated this deprivation of life without due process. Doctors do not have broad discretion to end patients’ lives without their consent,” PJI said.

Courthouse News Service reported the judges on the 9th Circuit “pressed whether the family has any pending insurance claims or other financial obligations that could be affected by an eventual ruling. Fonseca wants the state to amend the date on Israel’s death certificate and have the lawsuit remanded to federal court in Sacramento for consideration on the merits.”

McReynolds said that, to his knowledge, there were no insurance claims.

U.S. Circuit Judge Richard Clifton, on the panel, said it’s certainly possible that the law played a role in the doctors’ assessments.

Mom suing hospital for removing infant from life support
Posted By -NO AUTHOR- On 01/21/2019 @ 8:47 pm

https://www.wnd.com/2019/01/mom-suin...-life-support/

[Flanders]

A snake is a snake; a judge is a judge. A venomous snake may drowse in a bed of flowers, but it remains a deadly snake. Snakes and judges do what they will do. They are creatures of habit no more able to change their ways than the Earth can alter its orbit around the sun.

The snakes are on this side of the border:

VIDEO

https://video.foxnews.com/v/59966469...#sp=show-clips

VIDEO

https://video.foxnews.com/v/59968808...#sp=show-clips

[Flanders]

Democrats kill everything that walks on two feet except convicted murderers

Another Democrat butcher is at it again:

California Gov. Newsom Places Moratorium on Executions
Wednesday, 13 March 2019 07:51 AMWednesday, 13 March 2019 07:51 AM

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/us.../13/id/906715/

[Flanders]

DEATH UPDATE

The Netherlands leads the world in Socialist parasites. There is no better example of Socialist morality at work than those in Holland. The Dutch rejected Nazi euthanasia, but now Dutch Communists lead the world in peacetime euthanasia. The Netherlands has long been the proving ground for worldwide Socialism’s Culture of Death. As I said many times “Nazi Germany’s occupation was the last good thing to happen in the Netherlands.” Sad to say Holland’s morality is camping on our border:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...9c5e450934007a

Maginot Line breached by Dutch Communists:

France Is The Latest Country To Authorize Killing People Who Aren’t Dying
July 9, 2019 By David Marcus

https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/09...e-arent-dying/

[Flanders]

But Kerry has gone what in better days would have been universally held to be one bridge too far. In a speech last year to the NARAL Pro-Choice America Dinner, he gave an intellectually suicidal summary of his views.

He began by saying that "there is no overturning of Roe v. Wade." He went on: "There is no outlawing of a procedure necessary to save a woman's life or health." That statement of course begs the question on which the entire Congress and the state legislatures and the Supreme Court have been stalled for years, namely, Is the invocation of "health," if made by the woman alone, conclusive in authorizing abortion? If so, Roe v. Wade, which did not authorize willful third-trimester abortions, stands to be revised as the Roe-Wade-Kerry decision.


Kerry continued: "There (shall be) no more cutbacks on population control efforts around the world."

This endorses abortion Chinese-style. Too many people? Too few abortions.

But the eye-popper was still to come: "We need to honestly and confidently and candidly take this issue out to the country and we need to speak up and be proud of what we stand for."

But Kerry says he personally opposes abortion. Where is he exhibiting his pride in what he stands for? Whom has he counseled against abortion? A nun somewhere, out of earshot?

Crooked thought
William F. Buckley
February 26, 2004

http://townhall.com/columnists/willi...rooked_thought

Compare the two men:

https://www.lucianne.com/images/dail...07921125c.jpeg

[Nordberg]

[QUOTE=Flanders;2787522]To Nordberg: So either population controls do not exist, or the poor are demanding population control methods for themselves, while Bill and Melinda Gates are minding their own business:





To Nordberg: Get real. The wealthy are not only pushing population controls with countless scare tactics, they tied them to abortion:

But Kerry has gone what in better days would have been universally held to be one bridge too far. In a speech last year to the NARAL Pro-Choice America Dinner, he gave an intellectually suicidal summary of his views.

He began by saying that "there is no overturning of Roe v. Wade." He went on: "There is no outlawing of a procedure necessary to save a woman's life or health." That statement of course begs the question on which the entire Congress and the state legislatures and the Supreme Court have been stalled for years, namely, Is the invocation of "health," if made by the woman alone, conclusive in authorizing abortion? If so, Roe v. Wade, which did not authorize willful third-trimester abortions, stands to be revised as the Roe-Wade-Kerry decision.
Kerry continued: "There (shall be) no more cutbacks on population control efforts around the world."

This endorses abortion Chinese-style. Too many people? Too few abortions.

But the eye-popper was still to come: "We need to honestly and confidently and candidly take this issue out to the country and we need to speak up and be proud of what we stand for."

But Kerry says he personally opposes abortion. Where is he exhibiting his pride in what he stands for? Whom has he counseled against abortion? A nun somewhere, out of earshot?

Crooked thought
William F. Buckley
February 26, 2004

http://townhall.com/columnists/willi...rooked_thought

To Nordberg: No they are not unless you consider China uncivilized:

China executes more people than rest of world combined, Amnesty report reveals
Colin Drury
Thursday 12 April 2018 09:34

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8300726.html

To Nordberg: Nice try:



Parenthetically, the argument for abolishing the death penalty began with:

BLACKSTONE’S RATIO

Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer. William Blackstone (1723 – 1780)

Take a look at the death penalty in relation to Blackstone’s Ratio.

Liberals always argue that the death penalty does not deter murder. That argument is absurd on the face of it. Execute a murderer and he/she will not murder again. Abolishing the death penalty most certainly will NOT deter murder.

The next favorite argument against the death penalty says that an innocent man cannot be brought back to life after he is executed. That line of reasoning is a piece of legal sophistry rooted in Blackstone’s Ratio.

Parenthetically, Blackstone’s Ratio depends upon who you quote. Charles Dickens put the morning line at 99 to 1 in favor of the criminals.

Blackstone’s Ratio probably made sense hundreds of years ago. It makes no sense today when you look at all of the protection criminals are given before trial in this country. Murderers are given even more protections in the form of endless appeals after they are found guilty. Twenty years or more often elapses before a murderer is finally executed. And executions are disappearing each time a state legislator abolishes the death penalty. Indeed, fewer executions take place than the number of convicted murderers released.

I doubt if all of those convicted murderers being set free are not guilty twenty years after being convicted. There is too much room for bribery and tampering with evidence to convince me that so many prosecutors made so many mistakes. Or maybe juries made all of those mistakes which does not say much for the jury system.

Life without parole is another myth.

A loophole in the 1987 life-without-parole law allows inmates to apply for clemency. In a move to clarify who might be eligible for clemency, the state Pardon and Parole Board recently enacted a policy that gives inmates with this sentence a chance for early release after 15 years.

Loophole lets inmates seek parole Board changes life sentence policy
Bob Doucette
Published: Sat, March 9, 2002 12:00 AM

https://newsok.com/article/2784964/l...entence-policy

Long before 1987 Clarence Darrow not only beat the death penalty he beat life without parole.

I believe that Leopold and Loeb beating the hangman was the most influential decision ever handed down in death penalty cases. Clarence Darrow’s entire defense was designed to beat the death penalty rather than get Leopold and Loeb off.

With their sons facing the hangman, the killers’ rich families called in a legal luminary — Clarence Darrow, 66, famed for saving 100 defendants from execution.

“Not guilty,” the original plea, would have put them before a jury, not a wise move with a pair of defendants as arrogant and unlikable as Leopold and Loeb.

Today’s touchy-feely garbage and psycho-babble gained nationwide acceptance because the Bobby Franks murder case got more publicity than did all of Darrow’s previous 100 death penalty cases combined.

Darrow, in a stunning move, changed the plea to guilty. Their case, with a parade of alienists, as psychiatrists were known in those days, would be presented to the judge, who would decide on life or death. In a three-day summation, Darrow quoted poetry, history and science in a plea for mercy so eloquent even the judge got misty-eyed. Darrow said that the boys, although not legally insane, were mentally ill and not responsible for their actions. “They killed him as they might kill a spider or a fly.”

Darrow ended up with two more notches on his saved-from-the-hangman’s belt. The judge gave his clients life plus 99 years.

90th anniversary of Leopold and Loeb's horrific murder
BY Mara Bovsun
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Saturday, May 17, 2014, 9:47 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1796537

[B]Life plus 99 years got lost when Leopold was paroled in 1958. Note that life without parole became another judicial myth after it was attached to a life sentence. Even worse, Darrow gave “. . . alienists, as psychiatrists were known in those days . . .” a vote in deciding guilty or not guilty. It will not be long before lawyers call upon “expert astrologists” reading tarot cards decide punishment.

You are lying as usual. The decision is personal and made by the person who is terminally ill. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...nce-dying.html It is not like our capital punishment.